Pacquiao needs to step it up

[GAME]

Pac didnt beat Marquez . He got gifts in both fights . Even a washed up Morales coming off a defeat to Barrera beat Pac .

[Markusdarkus]

Didnt Mayweather get a gift against Castillo and who did Mayweather beat for titles when he moved up?

Gatti, Baldomir to name but two at least Diaz is in hisa prime.

I see a lot of bad blood and i think it is Mayweather fans instigating it because Pacquiao is now the number 1 P4P fighter in the world.

[Majesty]

Didnt Mayweather get a gift against Castillo and who did Mayweather beat for titles when he moved up?

Gatti, Baldomir to name but two at least Diaz is in hisa prime.

I see a lot of bad blood and i think it is Mayweather fans instigating it because Pacquiao is now the number 1 P4P fighter in the world.

There's a difference.

Mayweather had a messed up shoulder and it was his first fight at Lightweight when he fought Castillo and then he came back in the rematch and beat Castillo clearly

Pacquiao on the other hand has struggled with JMM twice and it can be made a case that he lost the second fight after improving as a fighter.

But like I said, fights against people like Diaz won't answer any of our questions about Pacquiao. It answered what we already knew, he is a storm against people who stand in front of him and he has devastating power. But against someone like Marquez it seems he struggles. Now to answer if its just Marquez that has the formula or can the other lights of this division that can box have a chance as well?

This is what fights with the likes of Guzman and Chris John will show about Pacquiao.

[Markusdarkus]

Didnt Mayweather get a gift against Castillo and who did Mayweather beat for titles when he moved up?

Gatti, Baldomir to name but two at least Diaz is in hisa prime.

I see a lot of bad blood and i think it is Mayweather fans instigating it because Pacquiao is now the number 1 P4P fighter in the world.

There's a difference.

Mayweather had a messed up shoulder and it was his first fight at Lightweight when he fought Castillo and then he came back in the rematch and beat Castillo clearly

Pacquiao on the other hand has struggled with JMM twice and it can be made a case that he lost the second fight after improving as a fighter.

But like I said, fights against people like Diaz won't answer any of our questions about Pacquiao. It answered what we already knew, he is a storm against people who stand in front of him and he has devastating power. But against someone like Marquez it seems he struggles. Now to answer if its just Marquez that has the formula or can the other lights of this division that can box have a chance as well?

This is what fights with the likes of Guzman and Chris John will show about Pacquiao.

Im just defending the Pac-Man i know beating Diaz isnt that great but it was his first fight at the weight and he fought a solid title holder. Again should Pacquaio clear up 135lbs he would become a 4 weight world champion, not just a 4 weight title holder.

[The Rookie Fan]

Didnt Mayweather get a gift against Castillo and who did Mayweather beat for titles when he moved up?

Gatti, Baldomir to name but two at least Diaz is in hisa prime.

I see a lot of bad blood and i think it is Mayweather fans instigating it because Pacquiao is now the number 1 P4P fighter in the world.

There's a difference.

Mayweather had a messed up shoulder and it was his first fight at Lightweight when he fought Castillo and then he came back in the rematch and beat Castillo clearly

Pacquiao on the other hand has struggled with JMM twice and it can be made a case that he lost the second fight after improving as a fighter.

But like I said, fights against people like Diaz won't answer any of our questions about Pacquiao. It answered what we already knew, he is a storm against people who stand in front of him and he has devastating power. But against someone like Marquez it seems he struggles. Now to answer if its just Marquez that has the formula or can the other lights of this division that can box have a chance as well?

This is what fights with the likes of Guzman and Chris John will show about Pacquiao.

I could argue that Juan Manuel Marquez, Marco Antonio Barrerra and Eric Moralez are better fighters than anyone Mayweather ever faced and you would have a hard time trying to convince me otherwise.

[Markusdarkus]

Didnt Mayweather get a gift against Castillo and who did Mayweather beat for titles when he moved up?

Gatti, Baldomir to name but two at least Diaz is in hisa prime.

I see a lot of bad blood and i think it is Mayweather fans instigating it because Pacquiao is now the number 1 P4P fighter in the world.

There's a difference.

Mayweather had a messed up shoulder and it was his first fight at Lightweight when he fought Castillo and then he came back in the rematch and beat Castillo clearly

Pacquiao on the other hand has struggled with JMM twice and it can be made a case that he lost the second fight after improving as a fighter.

But like I said, fights against people like Diaz won't answer any of our questions about Pacquiao. It answered what we already knew, he is a storm against people who stand in front of him and he has devastating power. But against someone like Marquez it seems he struggles. Now to answer if its just Marquez that has the formula or can the other lights of this division that can box have a chance as well?

This is what fights with the likes of Guzman and Chris John will show about Pacquiao.

I could argue that Juan Manuel Marquez, Marco Antonio Barrerra and Eric Moralez are better fighters than anyone Mayweather ever faced and you would have a hard time trying to convince me otherwise.

I think Marques is as good as anyone p4p that Floyd has fought no doubt and Morales and Barerra slightly faded.

[Majesty]

Didnt Mayweather get a gift against Castillo and who did Mayweather beat for titles when he moved up?

Gatti, Baldomir to name but two at least Diaz is in hisa prime.

I see a lot of bad blood and i think it is Mayweather fans instigating it because Pacquiao is now the number 1 P4P fighter in the world.

There's a difference.

Mayweather had a messed up shoulder and it was his first fight at Lightweight when he fought Castillo and then he came back in the rematch and beat Castillo clearly

Pacquiao on the other hand has struggled with JMM twice and it can be made a case that he lost the second fight after improving as a fighter.

But like I said, fights against people like Diaz won't answer any of our questions about Pacquiao. It answered what we already knew, he is a storm against people who stand in front of him and he has devastating power. But against someone like Marquez it seems he struggles. Now to answer if its just Marquez that has the formula or can the other lights of this division that can box have a chance as well?

This is what fights with the likes of Guzman and Chris John will show about Pacquiao.

I could argue that Juan Manuel Marquez, Marco Antonio Barrerra and Eric Moralez are better fighters than anyone Mayweather ever faced and you would have a hard time trying to convince me otherwise.

Argue it then and I'll argue back

[The Rookie Fan]

There's a difference.

Mayweather had a messed up shoulder and it was his first fight at Lightweight when he fought Castillo and then he came back in the rematch and beat Castillo clearly

Pacquiao on the other hand has struggled with JMM twice and it can be made a case that he lost the second fight after improving as a fighter.

But like I said, fights against people like Diaz won't answer any of our questions about Pacquiao. It answered what we already knew, he is a storm against people who stand in front of him and he has devastating power. But against someone like Marquez it seems he struggles. Now to answer if its just Marquez that has the formula or can the other lights of this division that can box have a chance as well?

This is what fights with the likes of Guzman and Chris John will show about Pacquiao.

I could argue that Juan Manuel Marquez, Marco Antonio Barrerra and Eric Moralez are better fighters than anyone Mayweather ever faced and you would have a hard time trying to convince me otherwise.

Argue it then and I'll argue back

OK, I will bite.. Name me one fighter Mayweather faced better than Marquez.

[Markusdarkus]

Name one fight Floyd beat that was top 5 P4P then a year later still be top 5 P4P.

Not a worldclass Corrales not elite, Oscar old not active and Hatton was out of his depth at 147lbs.

Only one i can think of that even comes close is Castillo.

[Majesty]

I could argue that Juan Manuel Marquez, Marco Antonio Barrerra and Eric Moralez are better fighters than anyone Mayweather ever faced and you would have a hard time trying to convince me otherwise.

Argue it then and I'll argue back

OK, I will bite.. Name me one fighter Mayweather faced better than Marquez.

Corrales and Castillo heck even Genaro Hernandez and Corrales are better are both better then Marquez imo.

Marquez only gets exposure for coming back against Pacquiao other then that he looked bad against Gainer and Chris John exposed how he can't come forward very well and beat him. There are people better then Marquez but he gets exposure from coming back from 3 knockdowns to nearly beat Pacquiao. Chris John beats Marquez but who fights Pacquiao again? Marquez can't seem to outbox a boxer which is something Corrales did to Casamayor the second time around and before facing Mayweather Corrales was an excellent boxer and people forget how great he was at 130 he knocked out a younger Derrick Gainer whom Marquez looked bad against even though Gainer didn't mount much offense Marquez couldn't seem to take true advantage of it and it showed some of his holes.

But go on

[Pavlik]

Pac didnt beat Marquez . He got gifts in both fights . Even a washed up Morales coming off a defeat to Barrera beat Pac .

This is going to be a rehash:
PAC-JMM1= Pac was suppose to win if not for Judge Bert Clements scoring a 10-7 instead of the 10-6 for 3 knockdowns.
Pac-JMM2= Pac got it already in round 10 even if he lost both 11th and 12th round. YES! That 3rd round knockdown matters and those instances were PAC rocked JMM.
EM-PAC1= NO excuses but it was avenged in a career ruining way.