Pacquiao needs to step it up

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I'm not sure Pac has a better resume that Floyd at this point, but I'll admit, as a Floyd fan, if Floyd hadn't 'officially' retired I think Pac would have surpassed him in every publication as p4p #1. It's one thing to move up in weight and win titles. It's entirely another thing to move up from f@ckin' flyweight and become a lightweight champion. Not only that, the guy has knocked out just about every title holder he's faced. Pac man is THE man as far as I'm concerned. If Floyd does come back, he'll do so as #2 in my book.

From flyweight to lightweight champion, wasn't Pacquiao starting fighting at 17 or 16 or something like that?

What about from super bantamweight to junior middleweight champion like Mayweather did?

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I'm not sure Pac has a better resume that Floyd at this point, but I'll admit, as a Floyd fan, if Floyd hadn't 'officially' retired I think Pac would have surpassed him in every publication as p4p #1. It's one thing to move up in weight and win titles. It's entirely another thing to move up from f@ckin' flyweight and become a lightweight champion. Not only that, the guy has knocked out just about every title holder he's faced. Pac man is THE man as far as I'm concerned. If Floyd does come back, he'll do so as #2 in my book.

From flyweight to lightweight champion, wasn't Pacquiao starting fighting at 17 or 16 or something like that?

What about from super bantamweight to junior middleweight champion like Mayweather did?

What someone did as an amateur mean absolutely nothing as far as his pro legacy. If that were the case, we'd be including what all these guy's did when they started boxing at the age of 7 or 8 as most of them did. Floyd began his pro career as a jr. lightweight. Pac began his pro career at a weight that was less than most bulemic supermodels. I'm not crapping on Floyd b/c IMO he's the greatest fighter I've seen in my era, but Pac rose up from the middle earth hobbit weight classes and has cemented himself as a legitamate lightweight champion. That's pretty impressive IMO.

[Majesty]

I'm not sure Pac has a better resume that Floyd at this point, but I'll admit, as a Floyd fan, if Floyd hadn't 'officially' retired I think Pac would have surpassed him in every publication as p4p #1. It's one thing to move up in weight and win titles. It's entirely another thing to move up from f@ckin' flyweight and become a lightweight champion. Not only that, the guy has knocked out just about every title holder he's faced. Pac man is THE man as far as I'm concerned. If Floyd does come back, he'll do so as #2 in my book.

From flyweight to lightweight champion, wasn't Pacquiao starting fighting at 17 or 16 or something like that?

What about from super bantamweight to junior middleweight champion like Mayweather did?

What someone did as an amateur mean absolutely nothing as far as his pro legacy. If that were the case, we'd be including what all these guy's did when they started boxing at the age of 7 or 8 as most of them did. Floyd began his pro career as a jr. lightweight. Pac began his pro career at a weight that was less than most bulemic supermodels. I'm not crapping on Floyd b/c IMO he's the greatest fighter I've seen in my era, but Pac rose up from the middle earth hobbit weight classes and has cemented himself as a legitamate lightweight champion. That's pretty impressive IMO.

No pacquiao's been fighting that young since his pro debut. He was 17 or something when he was fighting as a pro if I remember right.

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From flyweight to lightweight champion, wasn't Pacquiao starting fighting at 17 or 16 or something like that?

What about from super bantamweight to junior middleweight champion like Mayweather did?

What someone did as an amateur mean absolutely nothing as far as his pro legacy. If that were the case, we'd be including what all these guy's did when they started boxing at the age of 7 or 8 as most of them did. Floyd began his pro career as a jr. lightweight. Pac began his pro career at a weight that was less than most bulemic supermodels. I'm not crapping on Floyd b/c IMO he's the greatest fighter I've seen in my era, but Pac rose up from the middle earth hobbit weight classes and has cemented himself as a legitamate lightweight champion. That's pretty impressive IMO.

No pacquiao's been fighting that young since his pro debut. He was 17 or something when he was fighting as a pro if I remember right.

I hear what you're saying but he was a pro then. Floyd turned pro as a jr. lightweight. All in all, they both moved up roughly 30 lbs or so, it just opens my eyes when a guy does that whose original weight was damn near only double didgets.

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What someone did as an amateur mean absolutely nothing as far as his pro legacy. If that were the case, we'd be including what all these guy's did when they started boxing at the age of 7 or 8 as most of them did. Floyd began his pro career as a jr. lightweight. Pac began his pro career at a weight that was less than most bulemic supermodels. I'm not crapping on Floyd b/c IMO he's the greatest fighter I've seen in my era, but Pac rose up from the middle earth hobbit weight classes and has cemented himself as a legitamate lightweight champion. That's pretty impressive IMO.

No pacquiao's been fighting that young since his pro debut. He was 17 or something when he was fighting as a pro if I remember right.

I hear what you're saying but he was a pro then. Floyd turned pro as a jr. lightweight. All in all, they both moved up roughly 30 lbs or so, it just opens my eyes when a guy does that whose original weight was damn near only double didgets.

I see what you're saying. But what Pacquiao and Mayweather have done is both impressive.

what I'm saying is people really shouldnt be going "Pacquiao is better then Floyd now because of this and that" When they've both been impressive.

And we can't really say what Pacquiao has done is more then Floyd at this point they are about even Pacquiao will surpass Floyd on the p4p lists if he makes the right move in his next fight.

Because Floyd is retired until after the Margarito Cotto fight.

If pacquiao's next fight is against someone like Guzman or etc, then it will be no choice but tio put him ahead of Floyd. The ball is in Pac's court right now and he can make all the moves. But I don't think people should talk about placing him over Floyd over him beating Diaz