What do u think is Zab's should do if he loses to Joshua

[Wayne]

Zab is getting knocked out in this one.

Yes he is; well hopefully.

If Zab loses I was hoping he'd go away, but I see a couple of tune-up fights on ESPN then getting another title shot.....again.

I don't see why Berto isn't put in with Zab; at least if he loses to Clottey. He'l' be nothing but a gatekeeper as far as I'm concerned. He could always fight Yoel in the shower again

But see that's the problem. If he loses he gets to fight for another belt? Whether Berto is ready for it or not, he's a champ now and Zab's upward-failing streak has to be broken if he loses to Clottey. Clottey won't knock him out, by the way, but he will beat him up. Zab is gonna look perty for about 5 rounds but he'll turn into a dud when he sees all that speed and power not doing anything for him.

[frozensolid_702]

Zab is getting knocked out in this one.

Yes he is; well hopefully.

If Zab loses I was hoping he'd go away, but I see a couple of tune-up fights on ESPN then getting another title shot.....again.

I don't see why Berto isn't put in with Zab; at least if he loses to Clottey. He'l' be nothing but a gatekeeper as far as I'm concerned. He could always fight Yoel in the shower again

But see that's the problem. If he loses he gets to fight for another belt? Whether Berto is ready for it or not, he's a champ now and Zab's upward-failing streak has to be broken if he loses to Clottey. Clottey won't knock him out, by the way, but he will beat him up. Zab is gonna look perty for about 5 rounds but he'll turn into a dud when he sees all that speed and power not doing anything for him.

I would happily take a sig bet on this, unless you're scared.


I already got a user name change bet on the line with the Rock.
















I'm sooo gonna clean house on this fight.

[Wayne]

Yes he is; well hopefully.

If Zab loses I was hoping he'd go away, but I see a couple of tune-up fights on ESPN then getting another title shot.....again.

I don't see why Berto isn't put in with Zab; at least if he loses to Clottey. He'l' be nothing but a gatekeeper as far as I'm concerned. He could always fight Yoel in the shower again

But see that's the problem. If he loses he gets to fight for another belt? Whether Berto is ready for it or not, he's a champ now and Zab's upward-failing streak has to be broken if he loses to Clottey. Clottey won't knock him out, by the way, but he will beat him up. Zab is gonna look perty for about 5 rounds but he'll turn into a dud when he sees all that speed and power not doing anything for him.

I would happily take a sig bet on this, unless you're scared.


I already got a user name change bet on the line with the Rock.

I'm sooo gonna clean house on this fight.

On the winner? I've never done a sig bet before, but you are absolutely on. It'll be a repeat of him shitting the bed against Mayweather. Zab is going to look great- speed + power, but Clottey has a chin from hell and the guy jogs up to 20 miles at a time, he won't gas out. Clottey's speed isn't bad, either, he'll get some good shots in early, but he won't turn off like the street lights in the dawn, he'll keep on.

Oh man, I just looked at Judah's record and I'm even more convinced. He couldn't even make the welter limit in his last two fights against guys with shitty records. Acelino Freitas, Wilfredo Negron and and Ricardo Torres all knocked Edwin Vazquez out at lower weight classes and Zab couldn't take out an old man with 12 losses and 22 victories. At least you can understand him not being able to take out Ryan Davis who's a legit LMW, but he's 20-8-2. How are either of these guys who have been knocked out due preparation for Joshua Clottey? A guy, so far as I know, who has never been knocked down. Those fights were nothing but confidence builders and Clottey is not a guy you fight after you get your confidence back. Clottey is a 'next step' guy.

Yes, I will take your bet. Let's name some terms and get this on.

[luvfightgame]

If Zab loses he should blame it on his promoter,say he didn't have enough time to prepare, and complain that he was prepared for Mosley not Clottey.



Then state that he's still the top P4P guy out there.

[frozensolid_702]

But see that's the problem. If he loses he gets to fight for another belt? Whether Berto is ready for it or not, he's a champ now and Zab's upward-failing streak has to be broken if he loses to Clottey. Clottey won't knock him out, by the way, but he will beat him up. Zab is gonna look perty for about 5 rounds but he'll turn into a dud when he sees all that speed and power not doing anything for him.

I would happily take a sig bet on this, unless you're scared.


I already got a user name change bet on the line with the Rock.

I'm sooo gonna clean house on this fight.

On the winner? I've never done a sig bet before, but you are absolutely on. It'll be a repeat of him shitting the bed against Mayweather. Zab is going to look great- speed + power, but Clottey has a chin from hell and the guy jogs up to 20 miles at a time, he won't gas out. Clottey's speed isn't bad, either, he'll get some good shots in early, but he won't turn off like the street lights in the dawn, he'll keep on.

Oh man, I just looked at Judah's record and I'm even more convinced. He couldn't even make the welter limit in his last two fights against guys with shitty records. Acelino Freitas, Wilfredo Negron and and Ricardo Torres all knocked Edwin Vazquez out at lower weight classes and Zab couldn't take out an old man with 12 losses and 22 victories. At least you can understand him not being able to take out Ryan Davis who's a legit LMW, but he's 20-8-2. How are either of these guys who have been knocked out due preparation for Joshua Clottey? A guy, so far as I know, who has never been knocked down. Those fights were nothing but confidence builders and Clottey is not a guy you fight after you get your confidence back. Clottey is a 'next step' guy.

Yes, I will take your bet. Let's name some terms and get this on.

Cool..... It's a bet.



Don't forget............ Zab Judah has been training to fight Shane Mosley not Joshua Clottey up until somewhat recently. He's gonna show up in perfect shape and 1000% focused

[Wayne]

I would happily take a sig bet on this, unless you're scared.


I already got a user name change bet on the line with the Rock.

I'm sooo gonna clean house on this fight.

On the winner? I've never done a sig bet before, but you are absolutely on. It'll be a repeat of him shitting the bed against Mayweather. Zab is going to look great- speed + power, but Clottey has a chin from hell and the guy jogs up to 20 miles at a time, he won't gas out. Clottey's speed isn't bad, either, he'll get some good shots in early, but he won't turn off like the street lights in the dawn, he'll keep on.

Oh man, I just looked at Judah's record and I'm even more convinced. He couldn't even make the welter limit in his last two fights against guys with shitty records. Acelino Freitas, Wilfredo Negron and and Ricardo Torres all knocked Edwin Vazquez out at lower weight classes and Zab couldn't take out an old man with 12 losses and 22 victories. At least you can understand him not being able to take out Ryan Davis who's a legit LMW, but he's 20-8-2. How are either of these guys who have been knocked out due preparation for Joshua Clottey? A guy, so far as I know, who has never been knocked down. Those fights were nothing but confidence builders and Clottey is not a guy you fight after you get your confidence back. Clottey is a 'next step' guy.

Yes, I will take your bet. Let's name some terms and get this on.

Cool..... It's a bet.



Don't forget............ Zab Judah has been training to fight Shane Mosley not Joshua Clottey up until somewhat recently. He's gonna show up in perfect shape and 1000% focused

So what are the terms? How long for the name and all that?

What you just said doesn't really matter in my mind. That's like saying Zab has been training to jump bare ass naked off a 1000 foot high cliff and instead is only going to be jumping off a 500 foot one. Either way, no matter how focused he is, he doesn't survive.

[LEGION]

Zab is getting knocked out in this one.

Yes he is; well hopefully.

If Zab loses I was hoping he'd go away, but I see a couple of tune-up fights on ESPN then getting another title shot.....again.

I don't see why Berto isn't put in with Zab; at least if he loses to Clottey. He'l' be nothing but a gatekeeper as far as I'm concerned. He could always fight Yoel in the shower again

But see that's the problem. If he loses he gets to fight for another belt? Whether Berto is ready for it or not, he's a champ now and Zab's upward-failing streak has to be broken if he loses to Clottey. Clottey won't knock him out, by the way, but he will beat him up. Zab is gonna look perty for about 5 rounds but he'll turn into a dud when he sees all that speed and power not doing anything for him.

I honestly forgot Berto has a belt now My bad.