Most complete fighter who gets all the ticks?

[ICB]

Johnny Nelson earns all the ticks.

He showed desire coming back from a terrible start to his career. And a terrible middle period - recovering from the De Leon debacle. And showed tremendous heart to get off the floor to KO Sellers and beat Cantatore in Italy.

He's shown plenty of speed, footwork and power - stopping warriors like Andries and Thompson.

And his chin - the record speaks for itself. Fact.

You piss taking so and so

[Fenster]

Johnny Nelson earns all the ticks.

He showed desire coming back from a terrible start to his career. And a terrible middle period - recovering from the De Leon debacle. And showed tremendous heart to get off the floor to KO Sellers and beat Cantatore in Italy.

He's shown plenty of speed, footwork and power - stopping warriors like Andries and Thompson.

And his chin - the record speaks for itself. Fact.

You piss taking so and so

Not really. Almost all great/semi-great/quality fighters share those attributes.

The perfect fighter doesn't exist.

Roy Jones wouldn't be Roy Jones if he wasn't different

[BIG H]

Everybody lacks something I suppose, but I like SRR, Duran & Pepp for this thread

[ICB]

Everybody lacks something I suppose, but I like SRR, Duran & Pepp for this thread

I thought you would of mentioned your boy Tyson BIG H, but Ricardo Lopez is probably top 5 the most skillful and the most complete package i've ever seen.

[Shamrock]

Ray Robinson had the lot. Ali - you could argue struggled to fight on the inside.

Ray Leonard was almost on the list but I decided to keep him off the list because he was a little to poor at giving rematches - I marked him down under desire for that.

[BIG H]

Everybody lacks something I suppose, but I like SRR, Duran & Pepp for this thread

I thought you would of mentioned your boy Tyson BIG H, but Ricardo Lopez is probably top 5 the most skillful and the most complete package i've ever seen.

Nah, Tyson was a wrecking machine, he did have a lot of tools, but also lacked a lot. He still beats Lewis Prime for Prime though

Game on

[BIG H]

You're right about Finito Ice

[CutMeMick]

I've often said 2 of the most complete fighters that my eyes have ever seen are:

Alexis Arguello
Ricardo Lopez

I would also include:

SRR
PBF
Duran

[Scrap]

Ive often wondered about Tyson. Its funny that Cus always worked on the mind with his Fighters and yet, all his Fighters were emotionaly weak. including Torres and Patterson strange.

[Thread Stealer]

I wouldn't list Mike Tyson on here.

When I think of complete fighters, I think of guys who can fight at all ranges, who can box on the move or be aggressive, and use different styles if necessary. Tyson had a nice heavy jab for his size, but it wasn't like he was going to win a fight on the inside. He had to do his damage at mid-range or when he was coming inside. He was also prone to laziness on the inside.

Marvin Hagler is someone I think of when describing a "complete" fighter. He boxed well and used the ring well. He could apply pressure very well. He could fight on the inside. He had solid defense with his parrying. He wasn't blazing fast, but had pretty respectable speed, and heavy hands as well. He could take shots well.

Floyd Mayweather's not the biggest puncher, but he has respectable power. He's fast, smart, can box on the move, fight on the inside, apply pressure when he needs to, attack the body, defend, etc...I'd consider him a pretty complete fighter.

Roberto Duran, Ray Leonard, Bernard Hopkins....all in their primes I'd call them complete fighters.

[CountryBoy]

Ive often wondered about Tyson. Its funny that Cus always worked on the mind with his Fighters and yet, all his Fighters were emotionaly weak. including Torres and Patterson strange.

Well he once told Tyson to watch out for people, and that he was not sophisticated enough to deal with them.

That being said, I doubt that helped him out any

[bikersk]

I've often said 2 of the most complete fighters that my eyes have ever seen are:

Alexis Arguello
Ricardo Lopez

I would also include:

SRR
PBF
Duran

I was waiting for this one from you cutmemick as i was reading through the thread. Hard to argue against.

[p4pking]

I think based on the criteria given in this thread there are literally hundreds. What makes fighters special though are intangibles, ability that can hardly be put into the proper wording.

[Scrap]

Donny thats a very good analogy of it all as regards SRR

[bikersk]

Unfortunately he died too young but one of our nations greatest would have made it to this list i'm sure. He died in a truck accident near where i live. I only mention it because i've been doing a bit of reading about the old glory days of fighting in this country (Australia) and Dave Sands (Born David Ritchie) is always mentioned by reputable historians as one of the best they ever saw. [IMG]file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Steven/Desktop/nla.pic-vn3060828-v.jpg[/IMG] Digital Collections - Pictures - Dave Sands (left), 11 st. 7 3/4 lbs. v. Henry Brimm, 11 st. 5 1/2 lbs., at Rushcutter's Bay Stadium, 8 August 1950 [picture]
Here he is in action.

Heres some info on him. Dave Sands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia