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    Default Re: Most complete fighter who gets all the ticks?

    I've often said 2 of the most complete fighters that my eyes have ever seen are:

    Alexis Arguello
    Ricardo Lopez

    I would also include:

    SRR
    PBF
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    Ive often wondered about Tyson. Its funny that Cus always worked on the mind with his Fighters and yet, all his Fighters were emotionaly weak. including Torres and Patterson strange.
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    Default Re: Most complete fighter who gets all the ticks?

    I wouldn't list Mike Tyson on here.

    When I think of complete fighters, I think of guys who can fight at all ranges, who can box on the move or be aggressive, and use different styles if necessary. Tyson had a nice heavy jab for his size, but it wasn't like he was going to win a fight on the inside. He had to do his damage at mid-range or when he was coming inside. He was also prone to laziness on the inside.

    Marvin Hagler is someone I think of when describing a "complete" fighter. He boxed well and used the ring well. He could apply pressure very well. He could fight on the inside. He had solid defense with his parrying. He wasn't blazing fast, but had pretty respectable speed, and heavy hands as well. He could take shots well.

    Floyd Mayweather's not the biggest puncher, but he has respectable power. He's fast, smart, can box on the move, fight on the inside, apply pressure when he needs to, attack the body, defend, etc...I'd consider him a pretty complete fighter.

    Roberto Duran, Ray Leonard, Bernard Hopkins....all in their primes I'd call them complete fighters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    Ive often wondered about Tyson. Its funny that Cus always worked on the mind with his Fighters and yet, all his Fighters were emotionaly weak. including Torres and Patterson strange.
    Well he once told Tyson to watch out for people, and that he was not sophisticated enough to deal with them.

    That being said, I doubt that helped him out any
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    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    I've often said 2 of the most complete fighters that my eyes have ever seen are:

    Alexis Arguello
    Ricardo Lopez

    I would also include:

    SRR
    PBF
    Duran
    I was waiting for this one from you cutmemick as i was reading through the thread. Hard to argue against.
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    Default Re: Most complete fighter who gets all the ticks?

    I think based on the criteria given in this thread there are literally hundreds. What makes fighters special though are intangibles, ability that can hardly be put into the proper wording.

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    Donny thats a very good analogy of it all as regards SRR
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    Unfortunately he died too young but one of our nations greatest would have made it to this list i'm sure. He died in a truck accident near where i live. I only mention it because i've been doing a bit of reading about the old glory days of fighting in this country (Australia) and Dave Sands (Born David Ritchie) is always mentioned by reputable historians as one of the best they ever saw. [IMG]file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Steven/Desktop/nla.pic-vn3060828-v.jpg[/IMG] Digital Collections - Pictures - Dave Sands (left), 11 st. 7 3/4 lbs. v. Henry Brimm, 11 st. 5 1/2 lbs., at Rushcutter's Bay Stadium, 8 August 1950 [picture]
    Here he is in action.

    Heres some info on him. Dave Sands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Les Darcy, is in a lot of peoples top five Middles of all time he died young
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    Interesting stuff about SRR Donny, but whatever flaws he may have had, he did o.k IMO his defeats at Middle weren't anything to do with his 'flaws' they were more to do with the fact that he had already had about 100 fights (more than most 95% of fighters would have in their whole career) before he moved to Middle.

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    Default Re: Most complete fighter who gets all the ticks?

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    Interesting stuff about SRR Donny, but whatever flaws he may have had, he did o.k IMO his defeats at Middle weren't anything to do with his 'flaws' they were more to do with the fact that he had already had about 100 fights (more than most 95% of fighters would have in their whole career) before he moved to Middle.
    Well factor in that he fought some very good fighters also.
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