Most complete fighter who gets all the ticks?

[ICB]

Hagler wasnt good with movers,I remember He struggled with Kevin Finnigan twice it was Finnigan getting cut late that saved him. The first time good Judges had Kevin in front hence the second Fight.

Yea i've heard about those fights but did Hagler win the 2nd fight in more impressive fashion Scrap ?? because Hagler always seemed to do better in rematches.

[JT Rock]

Vernon Forrest in his peak was one hell of a Fighter... Just fought the wrong fight against Mayorga

[Scrap]

Not really, just that Kevin got cut earlier. I loved Marvin as a fighter and a man Lovely guy, but believe He would have struggled with the likes of Monzon, Styles.

[ICB]

Not really, just that Kevin got cut earlier. I loved Marvin as a fighter and a man Lovely guy, but believe He would have struggled with the likes of Monzon, Styles.

I heard Kevin was a good fighter and so was his brother Chris he fought a hell of a fight against Bob Foster, as for Monzon vs Hagler not sure how that one would of gone, i do feel Hagler was the faster puncher, because Monzon was always slow hand speed wise IMO. But Monzon was an extremely accurate puncher and could bully opponent's very well. Its hard one to choose from IMO, but one thing is for certain is that none of them would be getting stopped because they both had iron chins. I know you may disagree with this Scrap but i always felt Michael Nunn would of been a bad style match up for Hagler as well.

[Scrap]

Nunn being a southpaw was his advantage, he looses that with Marvin I think Marvin does a job on him. If he had been as good rougthing it as he was expensive with his Telephone bills He would have been unbeatable .

[ICB]

Nunn being a southpaw was his advantage, he looses that with Marvin I think Marvin does a job on him. If he had been as good rougthing it as he was expensive with his Telephone bills He would have been unbeatable .

Good story

But seriously Scrap i think Nunn could have been great but he ruined himself, that shot he KO'ed Kalambay with was one of the hardest shots i've ever seen. The sound of it was scary and lets remember Kalambay had never been KO'ed in 60+ fights so it must of been some shot. I think that shot could have come close to even KO'ing Marvin Hagler himself.

And Frozen i can see your viewing this thread you went to that Nunn vs Kalambay fight didn't you ?? could you hear that shot from where you was ??

[Scrap]

He didnt make a habit off it did He .

[ICB]

He didnt make a habit off it did He .

Yes your right surprisingly he wasn't known as a puncher, thats what makes that punch even more scary IMO Scrap.

[Thread Stealer]

I never heard anything about Armstrong dropping Robinson and deserving the W.

Most accounts have Robinson beating an old Henry handily and carrying him the full distance.

[Scrap]

Sorry dont no what I was thinking I was thinking Gavilan Fucked that up its been a hard week

[El Kabong]

Kid Gavilain is another one that deserves a mention

[Thread Stealer]

Kid Gavilain is another one that deserves a mention

I don't know about that....I mean it's true that fighters back in the days usually had lower KO percentages, but still, Gavilian scored KOs in only about a quarter of his victories. I've only seen a few of his fights, but that suggests that he tended to lack power.