Is Hatton-Malignaggi fight already signed?

[XaduBoxer]

Hatton-Paulie is not signed.
Also please don't refer to Hatton as champ because of the IBO belt it kills me to read that.
Hattons the champ because he has the Ring Belt and is the lineal champ not because of that green piece of shit belt.

The thing here is that Hatton is that he's trying to be a man of his word and a Hatton-Paulie fight has been in the talks for some time now. So I think Hatton wants to honor that. Last I checked there was no #1 challenger to Paulies title. I think Hattons rated #5 in the IBF.
Certainly Hattons not defending his stupid IBO belt.
I think it has more to do with #1 vs. #2 in the general rankings.

If Hatton-Paulie not yet signed then why all this news of Paulie not stepping aside or Paulie needing a step aside money?

Who is really not wanting a Hatton-PAC fight? The fans want it, promoters want it (not sure with GBP tho), HBO (or Showtime) want it. Everybody want it and who's this entity trying to prevent a Hatton-PAC fight?

Aaahhhh!! my young grasshopper that "entity" you speak of is what is known as "boxing politics".

"Boxing Politics"? Can you explain what's the politics behind of not making the Hatton-PAC in November? Or else I tend to believe somebody in Hatton's camp is afraid of the PACMAN.

Could be it some other megafight happening in December?

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[CutMeMick]

If Hatton-Paulie not yet signed then why all this news of Paulie not stepping aside or Paulie needing a step aside money?

Who is really not wanting a Hatton-PAC fight? The fans want it, promoters want it (not sure with GBP tho), HBO (or Showtime) want it. Everybody want it and who's this entity trying to prevent a Hatton-PAC fight?

Aaahhhh!! my young grasshopper that "entity" you speak of is what is known as "boxing politics".

"Boxing Politics"? Can you explain what's the politics behind of not making the Hatton-PAC in November? Or else I tend to believe somebody in Hatton's camp is afraid of the PACMAN.
Could be it some other megafight happening in December?

If what you want to hear is that Hattons scared of Pac then I can just tell you if you'd like? Let me know.

If I knew about these boxing politics here I probably wouldn't be on this site right now. I'd probably be someone involved around this fight/fighters.

Just off the top of my head, where would you stage the fight?
Vegas or UK?
While Pac brings lots of people to Vegas he can't do what Hatton does in the UK.

Does it make sense for Pac to have 1 fight at Lightweight and immediately move up another div?

Who do you pay more Pac the P4P fighter OR the champion who would be defending his title? (Since Pac would be moving up to challenge)

Takes those few things there and try to work them out. Then think of how it would be worked out between both sides.

These are just a few things that sprung to mind.

[killersheep]

Aaahhhh!! my young grasshopper that "entity" you speak of is what is known as "boxing politics".

"Boxing Politics"? Can you explain what's the politics behind of not making the Hatton-PAC in November? Or else I tend to believe somebody in Hatton's camp is afraid of the PACMAN.
Could be it some other megafight happening in December?

If what you want to hear is that Hattons scared of Pac then I can just tell you if you'd like? Let me know.

If I knew about these boxing politics here I probably wouldn't be on this site right now. I'd probably be someone involved around this fight/fighters.

Just off the top of my head, where would you stage the fight?
Vegas or UK?
While Pac brings lots of people to Vegas he can't do what Hatton does in the UK.

Does it make sense for Pac to have 1 fight at Lightweight and immediately move up another div?

Who do you pay more Pac the P4P fighter OR the champion who would be defending his title? (Since Pac would be moving up to challenge)

Takes those few things there and try to work them out. Then think of how it would be worked out between both sides.

These are just a few things that sprung to mind.

Also while Hatton has the Ring title, the only strap he currently dons is the IBO one. You can bet your bottom dollar a fight this big doesn't come off without one of the big 4 commissions cutting into the action somehow.
Guess who does have a strap Mr. Malignaggi. Hence enter the politics.

[XaduBoxer]

Aaahhhh!! my young grasshopper that "entity" you speak of is what is known as "boxing politics".

"Boxing Politics"? Can you explain what's the politics behind of not making the Hatton-PAC in November? Or else I tend to believe somebody in Hatton's camp is afraid of the PACMAN.
Could be it some other megafight happening in December?

If what you want to hear is that Hattons scared of Pac then I can just tell you if you'd like? Let me know.

If I knew about these boxing politics here I probably wouldn't be on this site right now. I'd probably be someone involved around this fight/fighters.

Just off the top of my head, where would you stage the fight?
Vegas or UK?
While Pac brings lots of people to Vegas he can't do what Hatton does in the UK.

Does it make sense for Pac to have 1 fight at Lightweight and immediately move up another div?

Who do you pay more Pac the P4P fighter OR the champion who would be defending his title? (Since Pac would be moving up to challenge)

Takes those few things there and try to work them out. Then think of how it would be worked out between both sides.

These are just a few things that sprung to mind.

Wheww... that's a lot of politics but I believe this can be iron out... Is equal purse will work out? Or a 55/45 split in favor of Hatton the most logical?

Come on "Boxing Politics", make this fight happen in November...

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[Markusdarkus]

If Hatton-Paulie not yet signed then why all this news of Paulie not stepping aside or Paulie needing a step aside money?

Who is really not wanting a Hatton-PAC fight? The fans want it, promoters want it (not sure with GBP tho), HBO (or Showtime) want it. Everybody want it and who's this entity trying to prevent a Hatton-PAC fight?

Aaahhhh!! my young grasshopper that "entity" you speak of is what is known as "boxing politics".

"Boxing Politics"? Can you explain what's the politics behind of not making the Hatton-PAC in November? Or else I tend to believe somebody in Hatton's camp is afraid of the PACMAN.

Could be it some other megafight happening in December?

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Seen as Hatton already agreed to fight Paulie 6mths ago in Newyork in November, turned down Oscar, is a man of his word plus the fact Paulie wont accept step aside money ALL of that considering yoes its clear Hatton is afraid of Pacquaio

Gimmie a break!

[donnydarkoIRL]

I think that to say Hatton Pac is of a far greater magnitude shows a lack of interest in pure boxing imo.

Hatton vs. Pacquaio is a marquee fight. It's only purose is to generate huge sums of moiney and public interest.

As regards boxing significance Hatton vs. Pauoilie is afr more significant.

[Fenster]

I think that to say Hatton Pac is of a far greater magnitude shows a lack of interest in pure boxing imo.

Hatton vs. Pacquaio is a marquee fight. It's only purose is to generate huge sums of moiney and public interest.

As regards boxing significance Hatton vs. Pauoilie is afr more significant.

Why?

[donnydarkoIRL]

I think that to say Hatton Pac is of a far greater magnitude shows a lack of interest in pure boxing imo.

Hatton vs. Pacquaio is a marquee fight. It's only purose is to generate huge sums of moiney and public interest.

As regards boxing significance Hatton vs. Pauoilie is afr more significant.

Why?

The recognised No.1 Light welter fighting another highly rated Light Welter.
Bringing clarity to the division before hopping weights etc.
As opposed to the No.1 light welter defending to a man that has fought 2 divisions below him that same year.

[ICB]

I think that to say Hatton Pac is of a far greater magnitude shows a lack of interest in pure boxing imo.

Hatton vs. Pacquaio is a marquee fight. It's only purose is to generate huge sums of moiney and public interest.

As regards boxing significance Hatton vs. Pauoilie is afr more significant.

Why?

The recognised No.1 Light welter fighting another highly rated Light Welter.
Bringing clarity to the division before hopping weights etc.
As opposed to the No.1 light welter defending to a man that has fought 2 divisions below him that same year.

I disagree Hatton already proved along time ago he was the number 1 Jr Welterweight in the 140 pound division, why does he need to prove it again in an even weaker version of the Jr Welterweight division ?? Pacquiao vs Hatton would make much more money, its what the fans want. Pacquiao has been getting stronger since moving up and he walks around at 140+. And it would be 10x times more exciting it for certain makes sense to me Donny, but i guess it wouldn't be too bad if Hatton fought Paulie and Pacquiao fought Valero then if both fighters win, then they can face eachother.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Why?

The recognised No.1 Light welter fighting another highly rated Light Welter.
Bringing clarity to the division before hopping weights etc.
As opposed to the No.1 light welter defending to a man that has fought 2 divisions below him that same year.

I disagree Hatton already proved along time ago he was the number 1 in 140 pound division, why does he need to prove it again in an even weaker version of the Jr Welterweight division ?? Pacquiao vs Hatton would make much more money, its what the fans want. Pacquiao has been getting stronger since moving up and he walks around at 140+. And it would be 10x times more exciting it for certain makes sense to me Donny, but i guess it wouldn't be too bad if Hatton fought Paulie then Pacquiao fought Valero then if both fighters win, they can face eachother.

When reflecting on Hatton's legacy would it look better to look back, seeing him compete and dominate all the 140lbs champs or seing him beat a guy that has fought at Super featherweight this year?

Sure Pacquiao walks around at 140, but Ricky walks around at a minimum of 170!
Pacquiao is an exceptional fighter, but tthe end of the day the situation would present Ricky taking the challenge of the smaller man for money.

140 may be shallow at the moment, but there are better fights for Hatton's legacy;
Torres/Holt/Peterson/Malignaggi.

[Fenster]

Paulie is decent belt holder in a CRAP division.

Pac-Hatton is a great fight. What will be considered Hatton's best win (should he win) in years to come?

Pac or Powderpuff?

[donnydarkoIRL]

Paulie is decent belt holder in a CRAP division.

Pac-Hatton is a great fight. What will be considered Hatton's best win (should he win) in years to come?

Pac or Powderpuff?

If Hatton beats Pacquiao it's seen as Hatton beating a blown up Super featherweight.

You know it.

[ICB]

I think that to say Hatton Pac is of a far greater magnitude shows a lack of interest in pure boxing imo.

Hatton vs. Pacquaio is a marquee fight. It's only purose is to generate huge sums of moiney and public interest.

As regards boxing significance Hatton vs. Pauoilie is afr more significant.

Why?

Thats mystery to me as well Fenster what has Paulie done lately to make this more interesting fight than Pac vs Hatton ?? to be honest i think Paulie has looked crap in his last few fights and he hasn't impressed me since the Cotto fight. Pacquiao walks around at over 140+ pounds easily i believe so weight wouldn't be an issue. And plus it would be a much more exciting fight than Paulie running all night against Hatton.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Boxing fans want the divisions to be unified, they want one champion, yet rather than have the division clarified they want an exciting fight with a newcomer to the division....
Doesn't seem fair to me.

[Tito BHB]

Ngoudjo is paulies mandatory, so he may be getting his rematch in future.

No reason why hatton is not fighting pac..

Hatton turned down the oscar payday aswell..

Its just the fact that they had been working towards the paulie fight and they said that they will honour theyr agreement to fight next..

I dont think there is any intention to look past pac thuough.. i think they want a date early next year for that fight..