Is Hatton-Malignaggi fight already signed?

[donnydarkoIRL]

I disagree Hatton already proved along time ago he was the number 1 in 140 pound division, why does he need to prove it again in an even weaker version of the Jr Welterweight division ?? Pacquiao vs Hatton would make much more money, its what the fans want. Pacquiao has been getting stronger since moving up and he walks around at 140+. And it would be 10x times more exciting it for certain makes sense to me Donny, but i guess it wouldn't be too bad if Hatton fought Paulie then Pacquiao fought Valero then if both fighters win, they can face eachother.

When reflecting on Hatton's legacy would it look better to look back, seeing him compete and dominate all the 140lbs champs or seing him beat a guy that has fought at Super featherweight this year?

Sure Pacquiao walks around at 140, but Ricky walks around at a minimum of 170!
Pacquiao is an exceptional fighter, but tthe end of the day the situation would present Ricky taking the challenge of the smaller man for money.

140 may be shallow at the moment, but there are better fights for Hatton's legacy;
Torres/Holt/Peterson/Malignaggi.

The only fight that interest's me at 140 is Torres vs Hatton i still say Torres TKO's Hatton i think Hatton's punch resistance has gone somewhat. And i think Devon Alexander in time will be the best Jr Welterweight in the world.

Hatton's new vulnerability to punches certainly makes this fight more ridky for him, but I believe he could pull it out of the bag, by drawing Torres past the 6th. Torres has always had stamina problems and is reduced to a Urango like fighter after his initial onslaught.

But it would be very exciting. I'd also say that Bradley has brought something new to the division. Win or lose he will force fights and create excitment.

Paulie is decent belt holder in a CRAP division.

Pac-Hatton is a great fight. What will be considered Hatton's best win (should he win) in years to come?

Pac or Powderpuff?

If Hatton beats Pacquiao it's seen as Hatton beating a blown up Super featherweight.

You know it.

Yes but there's also flip side to that coin Donny looking back at Paulie vs Hatton would Hatton get that much credit for beating Paulie really ?? he got two gift decisions in his last two fights, one against Ndou who he dominated in the first fight, and it was one of the most pointless rematches at that time yet he still struggled against an old Ndou. Paulie shouldn't even have a belt IMO and he hasn't been impressive since the Cotto fight way back in 2005.

I'd give him great credit if he could stop Paulie. I would see that as a great feat and a bright feather in the cap of any fighter given the struggle posed by Malignaggi against Cotto.

[ICB]

When reflecting on Hatton's legacy would it look better to look back, seeing him compete and dominate all the 140lbs champs or seing him beat a guy that has fought at Super featherweight this year?

Sure Pacquiao walks around at 140, but Ricky walks around at a minimum of 170!
Pacquiao is an exceptional fighter, but tthe end of the day the situation would present Ricky taking the challenge of the smaller man for money.

140 may be shallow at the moment, but there are better fights for Hatton's legacy;
Torres/Holt/Peterson/Malignaggi.

The only fight that interest's me at 140 is Torres vs Hatton i still say Torres TKO's Hatton i think Hatton's punch resistance has gone somewhat. And i think Devon Alexander in time will be the best Jr Welterweight in the world.

Hatton's new vulnerability to punches certainly makes this fight more ridky for him, but I believe he could pull it out of the bag, by drawing Torres past the 6th. Torres has always had stamina problems and is reduced to a Urango like fighter after his initial onslaught.

But it would be very exciting. I'd also say that Bradley has brought something new to the division. Win or lose he will force fights and create excitment.

If Hatton beats Pacquiao it's seen as Hatton beating a blown up Super featherweight.

You know it.

Yes but there's also flip side to that coin Donny looking back at Paulie vs Hatton would Hatton get that much credit for beating Paulie really ?? he got two gift decisions in his last two fights, one against Ndou who he dominated in the first fight, and it was one of the most pointless rematches at that time yet he still struggled against an old Ndou. Paulie shouldn't even have a belt IMO and he hasn't been impressive since the Cotto fight way back in 2005.

I'd give him great credit if he could stop Paulie. I would see that as a great feat and a bright feather in the cap of any fighter given the struggle posed by Malignaggi against Cotto.

Just a question for you here Donny you said you see Hatton vs Paulie as the more significant fight, but do you think majority of boxing fans will see it that way ?? because i very much doubt it. I can guarantee you if Hatton beat P4P number 1 boxing star Manny Pacquiao he would get tons more credit than he would against the joker Paulie as he is known as now. And i would certainly praise Hatton if he beat Pacquiao, certainly much more than if he beat the feather fisted joker Paulie just my two cents here Donny.

[donnydarkoIRL]

The only fight that interest's me at 140 is Torres vs Hatton i still say Torres TKO's Hatton i think Hatton's punch resistance has gone somewhat. And i think Devon Alexander in time will be the best Jr Welterweight in the world.

Hatton's new vulnerability to punches certainly makes this fight more ridky for him, but I believe he could pull it out of the bag, by drawing Torres past the 6th. Torres has always had stamina problems and is reduced to a Urango like fighter after his initial onslaught.

But it would be very exciting. I'd also say that Bradley has brought something new to the division. Win or lose he will force fights and create excitment.

Yes but there's also flip side to that coin Donny looking back at Paulie vs Hatton would Hatton get that much credit for beating Paulie really ?? he got two gift decisions in his last two fights, one against Ndou who he dominated in the first fight, and it was one of the most pointless rematches at that time yet he still struggled against an old Ndou. Paulie shouldn't even have a belt IMO and he hasn't been impressive since the Cotto fight way back in 2005.

I'd give him great credit if he could stop Paulie. I would see that as a great feat and a bright feather in the cap of any fighter given the struggle posed by Malignaggi against Cotto.

Just a question for you here Donny you said you see Hatton vs Paulie as the more significant fight, but do you think majority of boxing fans will see it that way ?? because i very much doubt it. I can guarantee you if Hatton beat P4P number 1 boxing star Manny Pacquiao he would get tons more credit than he would against the joker Paulie as he is known as now. And i would certainly praise Hatton if he beat Pacquiao, certainly much more than if he beat the feather fisted joker Paulie just my two cents here Donny.

As I mentioned earlier I feel that a win over Pacquiao would be denigrated as a win over a ntuarally smaller man.

A win over Malignaggi, particularily a stoppage victory historically would be more highly regarded as a good win, given Malignaggis record.

Nobody applauds Joey Maxim for beating SRR, saying he just tired out the smaller man, see what I'm getting at?

[Fenster]

Hatton's new vulnerability to punches certainly makes this fight more ridky for him, but I believe he could pull it out of the bag, by drawing Torres past the 6th. Torres has always had stamina problems and is reduced to a Urango like fighter after his initial onslaught.

But it would be very exciting. I'd also say that Bradley has brought something new to the division. Win or lose he will force fights and create excitment.

I'd give him great credit if he could stop Paulie. I would see that as a great feat and a bright feather in the cap of any fighter given the struggle posed by Malignaggi against Cotto.

Just a question for you here Donny you said you see Hatton vs Paulie as the more significant fight, but do you think majority of boxing fans will see it that way ?? because i very much doubt it. I can guarantee you if Hatton beat P4P number 1 boxing star Manny Pacquiao he would get tons more credit than he would against the joker Paulie as he is known as now. And i would certainly praise Hatton if he beat Pacquiao, certainly much more than if he beat the feather fisted joker Paulie just my two cents here Donny.

As I mentioned earlier I feel that a win over Pacquiao would be denigrated as a win over a ntuarally smaller man.

A win over Malignaggi, particularily a stoppage victory historically would be more highly regarded as a good win, given Malignaggis record.

Nobody applauds Joey Maxim for beating SRR, saying he just tired out the smaller man, see what I'm getting at?

Cloud-cuckoo land. Fact.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Just a question for you here Donny you said you see Hatton vs Paulie as the more significant fight, but do you think majority of boxing fans will see it that way ?? because i very much doubt it. I can guarantee you if Hatton beat P4P number 1 boxing star Manny Pacquiao he would get tons more credit than he would against the joker Paulie as he is known as now. And i would certainly praise Hatton if he beat Pacquiao, certainly much more than if he beat the feather fisted joker Paulie just my two cents here Donny.

As I mentioned earlier I feel that a win over Pacquiao would be denigrated as a win over a ntuarally smaller man.

A win over Malignaggi, particularily a stoppage victory historically would be more highly regarded as a good win, given Malignaggis record.

Nobody applauds Joey Maxim for beating SRR, saying he just tired out the smaller man, see what I'm getting at?

Cloud-cuckoo land. Fact.

Wow, what a great response.
This is the intelligent debate which makes Saddo's great folks.



Fifty years time your grandson is looking at Hattons record.

Objectively, he can see two scenarios.
1 A win oveer another LWW title holder with defnses on record and a distance loss to Cotto

or
2. A win over a guy rising from Superfeatherweight where he won a MD and then fought Diaz for the LW title.

[Fenster]

As I mentioned earlier I feel that a win over Pacquiao would be denigrated as a win over a ntuarally smaller man.

A win over Malignaggi, particularily a stoppage victory historically would be more highly regarded as a good win, given Malignaggis record.

Nobody applauds Joey Maxim for beating SRR, saying he just tired out the smaller man, see what I'm getting at?

Cloud-cuckoo land. Fact.

Wow, what a great response.
This is the intelligent debate which makes Saddo's great folks.



Fifty years time your grandson is looking at Hattons record.

Objectively, he can see two scenarios.
1 A win oveer another LWW title holder with defnses on record and a distance loss to Cotto

or
2. A win over a guy rising from Superfeatherweight where he won a MD and then fought Diaz for the LW title.

What a ridiculous selling point.

Give it a rest.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Cloud-cuckoo land. Fact.

Wow, what a great response.
This is the intelligent debate which makes Saddo's great folks.



Fifty years time your grandson is looking at Hattons record.

Objectively, he can see two scenarios.
1 A win oveer another LWW title holder with defnses on record and a distance loss to Cotto

or
2. A win over a guy rising from Superfeatherweight where he won a MD and then fought Diaz for the LW title.

Give it a rest. You're in a minority of one.

Put in some effort, you've given no point as to why Pac vs. Hatton is a better fight apart from it being more exciting.

[ICB]

Hatton's new vulnerability to punches certainly makes this fight more ridky for him, but I believe he could pull it out of the bag, by drawing Torres past the 6th. Torres has always had stamina problems and is reduced to a Urango like fighter after his initial onslaught.

But it would be very exciting. I'd also say that Bradley has brought something new to the division. Win or lose he will force fights and create excitment.

I'd give him great credit if he could stop Paulie. I would see that as a great feat and a bright feather in the cap of any fighter given the struggle posed by Malignaggi against Cotto.

Just a question for you here Donny you said you see Hatton vs Paulie as the more significant fight, but do you think majority of boxing fans will see it that way ?? because i very much doubt it. I can guarantee you if Hatton beat P4P number 1 boxing star Manny Pacquiao he would get tons more credit than he would against the joker Paulie as he is known as now. And i would certainly praise Hatton if he beat Pacquiao, certainly much more than if he beat the feather fisted joker Paulie just my two cents here Donny.

As I mentioned earlier I feel that a win over Pacquiao would be denigrated as a win over a ntuarally smaller man.

A win over Malignaggi, particularily a stoppage victory historically would be more highly regarded as a good win, given Malignaggis record.

Nobody applauds Joey Maxim for beating SRR, saying he just tired out the smaller man, see what I'm getting at?

Joey Maxim doesn't get more credit for beating SRR because SRR was clearly winning the fight until SRR quit because of heat prostration which you can die from, im not saying Maxim wasn't under the same heat. but some humans can handle the heat better than others. Thats totally different from Pacquiao to Hatton plus Maxim weighed 17 more pounds than SRR.

[leftylee]

A question for you ICB. If Hatton beat Pac does he go to P4P Number 1 ??

[ICB]

A question for you ICB. If Hatton beat Pac does he go to P4P Number 1 ??

No because Forrest when he beat Mosley who was P4P number 1 at the time Forrest didn't go to P4P number 1, not sure where he would be rated to be honest i would have to think about it, but he would be certainly up there in the P4P rankings. And your boy would be prasied by me and most boxing fans for beating Pacquiao, no matter if Pacquiao started at a lower weight class. We have to take into account that Pacquiao started pro boxing at 16 years old, so gradually as he as got older he has been getting bigger and stronger. So i think Jr Welterweight would be an ok weight for him.

[XaduBoxer]

Hatton's new vulnerability to punches certainly makes this fight more ridky for him, but I believe he could pull it out of the bag, by drawing Torres past the 6th. Torres has always had stamina problems and is reduced to a Urango like fighter after his initial onslaught.

But it would be very exciting. I'd also say that Bradley has brought something new to the division. Win or lose he will force fights and create excitment.

I'd give him great credit if he could stop Paulie. I would see that as a great feat and a bright feather in the cap of any fighter given the struggle posed by Malignaggi against Cotto.

Just a question for you here Donny you said you see Hatton vs Paulie as the more significant fight, but do you think majority of boxing fans will see it that way ?? because i very much doubt it. I can guarantee you if Hatton beat P4P number 1 boxing star Manny Pacquiao he would get tons more credit than he would against the joker Paulie as he is known as now. And i would certainly praise Hatton if he beat Pacquiao, certainly much more than if he beat the feather fisted joker Paulie just my two cents here Donny.

As I mentioned earlier I feel that a win over Pacquiao would be denigrated as a win over a ntuarally smaller man.

A win over Malignaggi, particularily a stoppage victory historically would be more highly regarded as a good win, given Malignaggis record.

Nobody applauds Joey Maxim for beating SRR, saying he just tired out the smaller man, see what I'm getting at?

You're only considering if Hatton wins, how about if Hatton loses (which is not a remote possibility on both fights)?

Which one is more degrading, a member of the 80s boy band beating Hatton or the no. 1 P4P boxer beating Hatton?

I think there's no shame being beaten by the no. 1 P4P boxer in the world...

[donnydarkoIRL]

Just a question for you here Donny you said you see Hatton vs Paulie as the more significant fight, but do you think majority of boxing fans will see it that way ?? because i very much doubt it. I can guarantee you if Hatton beat P4P number 1 boxing star Manny Pacquiao he would get tons more credit than he would against the joker Paulie as he is known as now. And i would certainly praise Hatton if he beat Pacquiao, certainly much more than if he beat the feather fisted joker Paulie just my two cents here Donny.

As I mentioned earlier I feel that a win over Pacquiao would be denigrated as a win over a ntuarally smaller man.

A win over Malignaggi, particularily a stoppage victory historically would be more highly regarded as a good win, given Malignaggis record.

Nobody applauds Joey Maxim for beating SRR, saying he just tired out the smaller man, see what I'm getting at?

You're only considering if Hatton wins, how about if Hatton loses (which is not a remote possibility on both fights)?

Which one is more degrading, a member of the 80s boy band beating Hatton or the no. 1 P4P boxer beating Hatton?

I think there's no shame being beaten by the no. 1 P4P boxer in the world...

I have fully considered the possibility of Hatton losing. Read over my posts again.

But Hatton would be disgraced being beaten by a fighter coming up from a much lower weight class.

[XaduBoxer]

As I mentioned earlier I feel that a win over Pacquiao would be denigrated as a win over a ntuarally smaller man.

A win over Malignaggi, particularily a stoppage victory historically would be more highly regarded as a good win, given Malignaggis record.

Nobody applauds Joey Maxim for beating SRR, saying he just tired out the smaller man, see what I'm getting at?

You're only considering if Hatton wins, how about if Hatton loses (which is not a remote possibility on both fights)?

Which one is more degrading, a member of the 80s boy band beating Hatton or the no. 1 P4P boxer beating Hatton?

I think there's no shame being beaten by the no. 1 P4P boxer in the world...

I have fully considered the possibility of Hatton losing. Read over my posts again.

But Hatton would be disgraced being beaten by a fighter coming up from a much lower weight class.

Hatton can proudly say that he only lost to the no. 1 boxers in the world while I can't visualize him saying a word if ever he got beaten by a guy with weird hairdo...

[donnydarkoIRL]

You're only considering if Hatton wins, how about if Hatton loses (which is not a remote possibility on both fights)?

Which one is more degrading, a member of the 80s boy band beating Hatton or the no. 1 P4P boxer beating Hatton?

I think there's no shame being beaten by the no. 1 P4P boxer in the world...

I have fully considered the possibility of Hatton losing. Read over my posts again.

But Hatton would be disgraced being beaten by a fighter coming up from a much lower weight class.

Hatton can proudly say that he only lost to the no. 1 boxers in the world while I can't visualize him saying a word if ever he got beaten by a guy with weird hairdo...

As I mentioned in an earlier posting,
greatness or indeed the mantle of pound for pound no.1 fighter in the world does not make size irrelevant.

When Pacquiao gets in the ring with Ricky, he will be a much smaller man.
If his skills are sufficient to compensate for the size disadvantage then he truely deserves his moniker.

But in saying that if Ricky loses then it is a great shame on him.

[littlebif]

If Manny has another fight at 135 and then steps up to fight Hatton and Hatton wins ,it will look better for Hatton cause people will say he chose the weakest champion at 135 then steped up to try and win another belt with out defending it at 135.