Is Hatton-Malignaggi fight already signed?

[donnydarkoIRL]

The only fight that interest's me at 140 is Torres vs Hatton i still say Torres TKO's Hatton i think Hatton's punch resistance has gone somewhat. And i think Devon Alexander in time will be the best Jr Welterweight in the world.

Hatton's new vulnerability to punches certainly makes this fight more ridky for him, but I believe he could pull it out of the bag, by drawing Torres past the 6th. Torres has always had stamina problems and is reduced to a Urango like fighter after his initial onslaught.

But it would be very exciting. I'd also say that Bradley has brought something new to the division. Win or lose he will force fights and create excitment.

Yes but there's also flip side to that coin Donny looking back at Paulie vs Hatton would Hatton get that much credit for beating Paulie really ?? he got two gift decisions in his last two fights, one against Ndou who he dominated in the first fight, and it was one of the most pointless rematches at that time yet he still struggled against an old Ndou. Paulie shouldn't even have a belt IMO and he hasn't been impressive since the Cotto fight way back in 2005.

I'd give him great credit if he could stop Paulie. I would see that as a great feat and a bright feather in the cap of any fighter given the struggle posed by Malignaggi against Cotto.

Just a question for you here Donny you said you see Hatton vs Paulie as the more significant fight, but do you think majority of boxing fans will see it that way ?? because i very much doubt it. I can guarantee you if Hatton beat P4P number 1 boxing star Manny Pacquiao he would get tons more credit than he would against the joker Paulie as he is known as now. And i would certainly praise Hatton if he beat Pacquiao, certainly much more than if he beat the feather fisted joker Paulie just my two cents here Donny.

As I mentioned earlier I feel that a win over Pacquiao would be denigrated as a win over a ntuarally smaller man.

A win over Malignaggi, particularily a stoppage victory historically would be more highly regarded as a good win, given Malignaggis record.

Nobody applauds Joey Maxim for beating SRR, saying he just tired out the smaller man, see what I'm getting at?

[littlebif]

If Manny has another fight at 135 and then steps up to fight Hatton and Hatton wins ,it will look better for Hatton cause people will say he chose the weakest champion at 135 then steped up to try and win another belt with out defending it at 135.

[Fenster]

Hatton's new vulnerability to punches certainly makes this fight more ridky for him, but I believe he could pull it out of the bag, by drawing Torres past the 6th. Torres has always had stamina problems and is reduced to a Urango like fighter after his initial onslaught.

But it would be very exciting. I'd also say that Bradley has brought something new to the division. Win or lose he will force fights and create excitment.

I'd give him great credit if he could stop Paulie. I would see that as a great feat and a bright feather in the cap of any fighter given the struggle posed by Malignaggi against Cotto.

Just a question for you here Donny you said you see Hatton vs Paulie as the more significant fight, but do you think majority of boxing fans will see it that way ?? because i very much doubt it. I can guarantee you if Hatton beat P4P number 1 boxing star Manny Pacquiao he would get tons more credit than he would against the joker Paulie as he is known as now. And i would certainly praise Hatton if he beat Pacquiao, certainly much more than if he beat the feather fisted joker Paulie just my two cents here Donny.

As I mentioned earlier I feel that a win over Pacquiao would be denigrated as a win over a ntuarally smaller man.

A win over Malignaggi, particularily a stoppage victory historically would be more highly regarded as a good win, given Malignaggis record.

Nobody applauds Joey Maxim for beating SRR, saying he just tired out the smaller man, see what I'm getting at?

Cloud-cuckoo land. Fact.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Just a question for you here Donny you said you see Hatton vs Paulie as the more significant fight, but do you think majority of boxing fans will see it that way ?? because i very much doubt it. I can guarantee you if Hatton beat P4P number 1 boxing star Manny Pacquiao he would get tons more credit than he would against the joker Paulie as he is known as now. And i would certainly praise Hatton if he beat Pacquiao, certainly much more than if he beat the feather fisted joker Paulie just my two cents here Donny.

As I mentioned earlier I feel that a win over Pacquiao would be denigrated as a win over a ntuarally smaller man.

A win over Malignaggi, particularily a stoppage victory historically would be more highly regarded as a good win, given Malignaggis record.

Nobody applauds Joey Maxim for beating SRR, saying he just tired out the smaller man, see what I'm getting at?

Cloud-cuckoo land. Fact.

Wow, what a great response.
This is the intelligent debate which makes Saddo's great folks.



Fifty years time your grandson is looking at Hattons record.

Objectively, he can see two scenarios.
1 A win oveer another LWW title holder with defnses on record and a distance loss to Cotto

or
2. A win over a guy rising from Superfeatherweight where he won a MD and then fought Diaz for the LW title.

[Fenster]

As I mentioned earlier I feel that a win over Pacquiao would be denigrated as a win over a ntuarally smaller man.

A win over Malignaggi, particularily a stoppage victory historically would be more highly regarded as a good win, given Malignaggis record.

Nobody applauds Joey Maxim for beating SRR, saying he just tired out the smaller man, see what I'm getting at?

Cloud-cuckoo land. Fact.

Wow, what a great response.
This is the intelligent debate which makes Saddo's great folks.



Fifty years time your grandson is looking at Hattons record.

Objectively, he can see two scenarios.
1 A win oveer another LWW title holder with defnses on record and a distance loss to Cotto

or
2. A win over a guy rising from Superfeatherweight where he won a MD and then fought Diaz for the LW title.

What a ridiculous selling point.

Give it a rest.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Cloud-cuckoo land. Fact.

Wow, what a great response.
This is the intelligent debate which makes Saddo's great folks.



Fifty years time your grandson is looking at Hattons record.

Objectively, he can see two scenarios.
1 A win oveer another LWW title holder with defnses on record and a distance loss to Cotto

or
2. A win over a guy rising from Superfeatherweight where he won a MD and then fought Diaz for the LW title.

Give it a rest. You're in a minority of one.

Put in some effort, you've given no point as to why Pac vs. Hatton is a better fight apart from it being more exciting.

[ICB]

Hatton's new vulnerability to punches certainly makes this fight more ridky for him, but I believe he could pull it out of the bag, by drawing Torres past the 6th. Torres has always had stamina problems and is reduced to a Urango like fighter after his initial onslaught.

But it would be very exciting. I'd also say that Bradley has brought something new to the division. Win or lose he will force fights and create excitment.

I'd give him great credit if he could stop Paulie. I would see that as a great feat and a bright feather in the cap of any fighter given the struggle posed by Malignaggi against Cotto.

Just a question for you here Donny you said you see Hatton vs Paulie as the more significant fight, but do you think majority of boxing fans will see it that way ?? because i very much doubt it. I can guarantee you if Hatton beat P4P number 1 boxing star Manny Pacquiao he would get tons more credit than he would against the joker Paulie as he is known as now. And i would certainly praise Hatton if he beat Pacquiao, certainly much more than if he beat the feather fisted joker Paulie just my two cents here Donny.

As I mentioned earlier I feel that a win over Pacquiao would be denigrated as a win over a ntuarally smaller man.

A win over Malignaggi, particularily a stoppage victory historically would be more highly regarded as a good win, given Malignaggis record.

Nobody applauds Joey Maxim for beating SRR, saying he just tired out the smaller man, see what I'm getting at?

Joey Maxim doesn't get more credit for beating SRR because SRR was clearly winning the fight until SRR quit because of heat prostration which you can die from, im not saying Maxim wasn't under the same heat. but some humans can handle the heat better than others. Thats totally different from Pacquiao to Hatton plus Maxim weighed 17 more pounds than SRR.

[leftylee]

A question for you ICB. If Hatton beat Pac does he go to P4P Number 1 ??

[Fenster]

Wow, what a great response.
This is the intelligent debate which makes Saddo's great folks.



Fifty years time your grandson is looking at Hattons record.

Objectively, he can see two scenarios.
1 A win oveer another LWW title holder with defnses on record and a distance loss to Cotto

or
2. A win over a guy rising from Superfeatherweight where he won a MD and then fought Diaz for the LW title.

Give it a rest. You're in a minority of one.

Put in some effort, you've given no point as to why Pac vs. Hatton is a better fight apart from it being more exciting.

Go back and read the thread.

I and Ice have made it perfectly CLEAR why Pac is a far more significant fight than Powderpuff.

Is Powderpuff a top 10 P4P fighter? Has Powderpuff EVER been a top 10 P4P fighter?

He is NOTHING more than a belt holder at 140. He's not undisputed champ. He doesn't have ONE significant WIN to his name. Hatton beats him it ranks alongside his wins over Maussa, Collazo (not as good) and Urango.

Pac is a boxing GREAT. Enough said.

Your argument is - Powderpuff is a more significant win because he weighs 140. That's it.

[ICB]

Wow, what a great response.
This is the intelligent debate which makes Saddo's great folks.



Fifty years time your grandson is looking at Hattons record.

Objectively, he can see two scenarios.
1 A win oveer another LWW title holder with defnses on record and a distance loss to Cotto

or
2. A win over a guy rising from Superfeatherweight where he won a MD and then fought Diaz for the LW title.

Give it a rest. You're in a minority of one.

Put in some effort, you've given no point as to why Pac vs. Hatton is a better fight apart from it being more exciting.

Manny Pacquiao is the P4P number 1 fighter and is known by even armchair fans all around the world. Pacquiao is considered to be one of the best fighters of this generation where as Paulie is only known for taking a good beating off Cotto, other than that he has looked like a joke in his other fights after the Cotto one. Hatton would get more credit for beating Pacquiao and he would for certain be a top 10 P4P fighter for beating Pacquiao, and would be praised by boxing fans from all around the world for that feat. He would earn more money and it would be Hatton's kind of a fight a good old tear up, instead of having to chase after Paulie all around the ring, in years to come i truly believe Hatton would get much better praise for beating one of the best fighters of this generation aka Pacquiao, than Paulie who people describe as an 80s reject boy band, and like i said is only known for winning 3 rounds against Cotto and taking a good beating. Where as Pacquiao is considered by boxing fans everywhere to be a great.

[leftylee]

I agree with Donny. Paulie is number 2 in the division and is a fellow belt holder. Pac aint even had one fight at 140 yet and I know if Hatton beat Pac people will just say oh big wow he started out as a flyweight. Hatton would get NO credit. Paulie is a natural jr welter and the best fight available to him at 140.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Just a question for you here Donny you said you see Hatton vs Paulie as the more significant fight, but do you think majority of boxing fans will see it that way ?? because i very much doubt it. I can guarantee you if Hatton beat P4P number 1 boxing star Manny Pacquiao he would get tons more credit than he would against the joker Paulie as he is known as now. And i would certainly praise Hatton if he beat Pacquiao, certainly much more than if he beat the feather fisted joker Paulie just my two cents here Donny.

As I mentioned earlier I feel that a win over Pacquiao would be denigrated as a win over a ntuarally smaller man.

A win over Malignaggi, particularily a stoppage victory historically would be more highly regarded as a good win, given Malignaggis record.

Nobody applauds Joey Maxim for beating SRR, saying he just tired out the smaller man, see what I'm getting at?

Joey Maxim doesn't get more credit for beating SRR because SRR was clearly winning the fight until SRR quit because of heat prostration which you can die from, im not saying Maxim wasn't under the same heat. but some humans can handle the heat better than others. Thats totally different from Pacquiao to Hatton plus Maxim weighed 17 more pounds than SRR.

Wandering into dangerous territory here, but those people that handle the heat better would be black people.

Give it a rest. You're in a minority of one.

Put in some effort, you've given no point as to why Pac vs. Hatton is a better fight apart from it being more exciting.

Go back and read the thread.

I and Ice have made it perfectly CLEAR why Pac is a far more significant fight than Powderpuff.

Is Powderpuff a top 10 P4P fighter? Has Powderpuff EVER been a top 10 P4P fighter?

He is NOTHING more than a belt holder at 140. He's not undisputed champ. He doesn't have ONE significant WIN to his name. Hatton beats him it ranks alongside his wins over Maussa, Collazo (not as good) and Urango.

Pac is a boxing GREAT. Enough said.

Oh how different the story is now.

When Junior Witter was a belt holder, he deserved his shot.
Yet Junior was never pound for pound was he?
What significant win had Witter?

Yet you yourself demanded the fight must happen.

Malignaggi is different why?

[HattonTheHammer]

Give it a rest. You're in a minority of one.

Put in some effort, you've given no point as to why Pac vs. Hatton is a better fight apart from it being more exciting.

Go back and read the thread.

I and Ice have made it perfectly CLEAR why Pac is a far more significant fight than Powderpuff.

Is Powderpuff a top 10 P4P fighter? Has Powderpuff EVER been a top 10 P4P fighter?

He is NOTHING more than a belt holder at 140. He's not undisputed champ. He doesn't have ONE significant WIN to his name. Hatton beats him it ranks alongside his wins over Maussa, Collazo (not as good) and Urango.

Pac is a boxing GREAT. Enough said.

I actually see 2 very good arguments here

Hatton would have just as much to lose by fighting manny as he would against powderpuff. If he knocks him flat out within 7 everyones just gonna say he beat on a far weaker opponent.

One thing hatton will hopefully of learned from his brief stint at 147 is to never count your chickens. Who`s to say hatton wouldnt go down as one of the great all time 140pounders if he avoided manny and spent the remainder of his career fighting the likes of malignaggi and bradley??

Retire at the top of your game, as the undisputed number1 in your division having beaten every remaining opponent there is to beat, that should be hattons prerogative.

But then you take into account the business side of our sport and realise hatton-pacquiao is probably inevitable and from a money making stand point is off far higher regard for the hitman.

[ICB]

A question for you ICB. If Hatton beat Pac does he go to P4P Number 1 ??

No because Forrest when he beat Mosley who was P4P number 1 at the time Forrest didn't go to P4P number 1, not sure where he would be rated to be honest i would have to think about it, but he would be certainly up there in the P4P rankings. And your boy would be prasied by me and most boxing fans for beating Pacquiao, no matter if Pacquiao started at a lower weight class. We have to take into account that Pacquiao started pro boxing at 16 years old, so gradually as he as got older he has been getting bigger and stronger. So i think Jr Welterweight would be an ok weight for him.

[Fenster]

As I mentioned earlier I feel that a win over Pacquiao would be denigrated as a win over a ntuarally smaller man.

A win over Malignaggi, particularily a stoppage victory historically would be more highly regarded as a good win, given Malignaggis record.

Nobody applauds Joey Maxim for beating SRR, saying he just tired out the smaller man, see what I'm getting at?

Joey Maxim doesn't get more credit for beating SRR because SRR was clearly winning the fight until SRR quit because of heat prostration which you can die from, im not saying Maxim wasn't under the same heat. but some humans can handle the heat better than others. Thats totally different from Pacquiao to Hatton plus Maxim weighed 17 more pounds than SRR.

Wandering into dangerous territory here, but those people that handle the heat better would be black people.

Put in some effort, you've given no point as to why Pac vs. Hatton is a better fight apart from it being more exciting.

Go back and read the thread.

I and Ice have made it perfectly CLEAR why Pac is a far more significant fight than Powderpuff.

Is Powderpuff a top 10 P4P fighter? Has Powderpuff EVER been a top 10 P4P fighter?

He is NOTHING more than a belt holder at 140. He's not undisputed champ. He doesn't have ONE significant WIN to his name. Hatton beats him it ranks alongside his wins over Maussa, Collazo (not as good) and Urango.

Pac is a boxing GREAT. Enough said.

Oh how different the story is now.

When Junior Witter was a belt holder, he deserved his shot.
Yet Junior was never pound for pound was he?
What significant win had Witter?

Yet you yourself demanded the fight must happen.

Malignaggi is different why?

So you wanna change the subject now?

I have NO problem with Hatton fighting Powderpuff. YOU claimed it was a more SIGNIFICANT fight than Hatton-Pac.

Which is clearly RUBBISH.