Is Hatton-Malignaggi fight already signed?

[donnydarkoIRL]

Of course people will say Pac was small. Pac moving up in weight has a ready made excuse should he lose, and should he win the Hatton haters will undoubtedly have a field day.

BUT.. that's irrelevant to this little debate. In history Pac will still go down as Hatton's BEST win alongside Tszyu. Pac-Hatton will be a GREAT event/fight. And prove to be FAR more significant than Powderpuff-Hatton will EVER be

(by the way, Pac won that MD against a fellow GREAT fighter JMM. It is hardly a shame to BEAT a GREAT )

You have two conflicting points in your post.
On the one hand you say that people will criticise Hatton's win saying Pac is too small and on the other you say that it will be recognised as Hatton's best win?

If the people think that Pac is too small for him then how will it be regarded as a great win?


I thinkmthat Hatton would be far better served legacy wise clearing the board of other LWW's. If he has 3more fights Malignaggi, Torres and Bradlley, tehn he would be recognised as a graet LWW himself.
Then by all means cash in with a marquee fight.

But you know as well as I do, this fight was only ever conceived because of the potential profitability of such an event.

Because people REMEMBER star fights between great fighters.

I'm not talking about internet boxing anoraks/nerds. People that hate Hatton (or any fighter) will critisise him whatever he does.

When looking at Hatton's career do you think people will say his best wins were - "Tsyzu, urango, Collazo, Powderpuff, Castillo, Tackie, .. oh.. and that little guy, whatshisname, Pacman"

Of course not, he'll be ranked alongside Kostya.

I can completely understand the concept of name recognition, but you must realise, Pacquiao is famous for his achievements and accolades at much lower weights.
Even the fans with a vague interest realise that.

Hatton's status is almost affirmed. The boxing public know where they rank him, NO.1 at Lww but outside the P4P top 10.
I cannot see a win over a smaller opponent elevating this status, where as I can see wins over Malignaggi, Torres and/or Bradley contributing to his case.

Where as a showdown with Pac and a win, would provide enough financial merit for a retirement, without proving all that much, except that he can beat up a smaller man.

[Fenster]

You have two conflicting points in your post.
On the one hand you say that people will criticise Hatton's win saying Pac is too small and on the other you say that it will be recognised as Hatton's best win?

If the people think that Pac is too small for him then how will it be regarded as a great win?


I thinkmthat Hatton would be far better served legacy wise clearing the board of other LWW's. If he has 3more fights ,Malignaggi, Torres and Bradlley tehn he would be recognised as a graet LWW himself.
Then by all means cash in with a marquee fight.

But you know as well as I do, this fight was only ever conceived because of the potential profitability of such an event.

Because people REMEMBER star fights between great fighters.

I'm not talking about internet boxing anoraks/nerds. People that hate Hatton (or any fighter) will critisise him whatever he does.

When looking at Hatton's career do you think people will say his best wins were - "Tsyzu, urango, Collazo, Powderpuff, Castillo, Tackie, .. oh.. and that little guy, whatshisname, Pacman"

Of course not, he'll be ranked alongside Kostya.

I can completely understand the concept of name recognition, but you must realise, Pacquiao is famous for his achievements and accolades at much lower weights.
Even the fans with a vague interest realise that.

Hatton's status is almost affirmed. The boxing public know where they rank him, NO.1 at Lww but outside the P4P top 10.
I cannot see a win over a smaller opponent elevating this status, where as I can see wins over Malignaggi, Torres and/or Bradley contributing to his case.

Where as a showdown with Pac and a win, would provide enough financial merit for a retirement, without proving all that much, except that he can beat up a smaller man.

Malignaggi, Torres and Bradlley are nobodies compared with Pac.

Did it hurt Hopkins career that his two STAR wins were against welterweights? Tito and Oscar MADE him

[donnydarkoIRL]

Because people REMEMBER star fights between great fighters.

I'm not talking about internet boxing anoraks/nerds. People that hate Hatton (or any fighter) will critisise him whatever he does.

When looking at Hatton's career do you think people will say his best wins were - "Tsyzu, urango, Collazo, Powderpuff, Castillo, Tackie, .. oh.. and that little guy, whatshisname, Pacman"

Of course not, he'll be ranked alongside Kostya.

I can completely understand the concept of name recognition, but you must realise, Pacquiao is famous for his achievements and accolades at much lower weights.
Even the fans with a vague interest realise that.

Hatton's status is almost affirmed. The boxing public know where they rank him, NO.1 at Lww but outside the P4P top 10.
I cannot see a win over a smaller opponent elevating this status, where as I can see wins over Malignaggi, Torres and/or Bradley contributing to his case.

Where as a showdown with Pac and a win, would provide enough financial merit for a retirement, without proving all that much, except that he can beat up a smaller man.

Malignaggi, Torres and Bradlley are nobodies compared with Pac.

Did it hurt Hopkins career that his two STAR wins were against welterweights? Tito and Oscar MADE him

Tito and Oscar were two very tall Welters.
Their bodies could both handle the Middleweight division.
(With Tito now fighting at 168 and Oscar walking around daily at 160.)
They were true Middleweights by the time they faced Hopkins.

In addition both Oscar and Tito had their successes in the Middleweight division before fighting Hopkins.
Tito's win over Joppy and Oscar's shady victory overSturm had proved they could hang at the weight and as such they had introduced themselves to the Middleweight ranks.

[Fenster]

I can completely understand the concept of name recognition, but you must realise, Pacquiao is famous for his achievements and accolades at much lower weights.
Even the fans with a vague interest realise that.

Hatton's status is almost affirmed. The boxing public know where they rank him, NO.1 at Lww but outside the P4P top 10.
I cannot see a win over a smaller opponent elevating this status, where as I can see wins over Malignaggi, Torres and/or Bradley contributing to his case.

Where as a showdown with Pac and a win, would provide enough financial merit for a retirement, without proving all that much, except that he can beat up a smaller man.

Malignaggi, Torres and Bradlley are nobodies compared with Pac.

Did it hurt Hopkins career that his two STAR wins were against welterweights? Tito and Oscar MADE him

Tito and Oscar were two very tall Welters.
Their bodies could both handle the Middleweight division.
(With Tito now fighting at 168 and Oscar walking around daily at 160.)
They were true Middleweights by the time they faced Hopkins.

In addition both Oscar and Tito had their successes in the Middleweight division before fighting Hopkins.
Tito's win over Joppy and Oscar's shady victory overSturm had proved they could hang at the weight and as such they had introduced themselves to the Middleweight ranks.

Fair point. But I believe Pac is taller and has a longer reach than Hatton. He is hardly going to look dwarfed now, is he

Just look at the interest a Pac-Hatton fight has generated since his emphatic win over Diaz. So much so that the MAJORITY are calling for it NOW. It shows Powderpuff-Hatton is such a big fight that step aside money was predicted so Powderpuff would get lost.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Malignaggi, Torres and Bradlley are nobodies compared with Pac.

Did it hurt Hopkins career that his two STAR wins were against welterweights? Tito and Oscar MADE him

Tito and Oscar were two very tall Welters.
Their bodies could both handle the Middleweight division.
(With Tito now fighting at 168 and Oscar walking around daily at 160.)
They were true Middleweights by the time they faced Hopkins.

In addition both Oscar and Tito had their successes in the Middleweight division before fighting Hopkins.
Tito's win over Joppy and Oscar's shady victory overSturm had proved they could hang at the weight and as such they had introduced themselves to the Middleweight ranks.

Fair point. But I believe Pac is taller and has a longer reach than Hatton. He is hardly going to look dwarfed now, is he

Just look at the interest a Pac-Hatton fight has generated since his emphatic win over Diaz. So much so that the MAJORITY are calling for it NOW. It shows Powderpuff-Hatton is such a big fight that step aside money was predicted so Powderpuff would get lost.

I'd actually like to consult boxrec on the top ten light welters, I'd be willing to bet that 70% have a longer reach. I'm going to check that later.

Pacquiao beat Diaz impressively, but how much of that interest was generated by his previously unsure fans who thought he was losing power as he climbed the weight classes.

At the end of the day, I believe, Hatton vs. Pac will happen.