If these guys fought prime 4 prime on there best night who would have most Wins?

[TitoFan]

When Lennox was motivated, he was nearly unbeatable. And he had the physical tools... size, reach, power, boxing skills. Yeah, he got KO'd by McCall and Rahman, but look how he came back.

Tyson did the best he could with his limited size, but prime Tyson would've still lost to prime (and motivated) Lewis.

Bowe was gifted, but an underachiever. If Golota hadn't been incredibly moronic, he would've KTFO'ed Bowe, instead of getting stupidly DQ'ed.

Holyfield was a warrior, but was still a pumped-up LHW and would lose to a prime Lewis.

Wlad? He's good and improving, but he's lucky there's not a prime Lewis around to fight. Otherwise, it'd be a different story.

I think it's Lewis.

[Spicoli]

When Lennox was motivated, he was nearly unbeatable. And he had the physical tools... size, reach, power, boxing skills. Yeah, he got KO'd by McCall and Rahman, but look how he came back.

Tyson did the best he could with his limited size, but prime Tyson would've still lost to prime (and motivated) Lewis.

Bowe was gifted, but an underachiever. If Golota hadn't been incredibly moronic, he would've KTFO'ed Bowe, instead of getting stupidly DQ'ed.

Holyfield was a warrior, but was still a pumped-up LHW and would lose to a prime Lewis.

Wlad? He's good and improving, but he's lucky there's not a prime Lewis around to fight. Otherwise, it'd be a different story.

I think it's Lewis.

Titofan I'm with you on Lewis all & all.He stikes me as One that gets more and more appreciation in hindsight & reflecting on career Imo.....for me anyway.His war with Mercer really made me turn the corner and realize that this man is for real and demands respect.....forget all of the stereo types about Euro Heavys.....he took that non-logic and tossed it in the trashcan.And yeh,he was also jobbed in the 1st Holyfield fight,Terrible call by the judges.

One thing though,We have got to put this Idea that Holyfield was just an oversized Lt.Hvy or Cruiser to bed.True,compared to many in history and even his own Era he was the lighter man......but only in literal #'s.He competed with The best big men of his time and I personally believe at his prime he could have more than held his own with any Heavy in History.No,not beat all of them but belongs right up there.......He was far more than just a big heart.Tremendous counter puncher,anvil Chin,underrated left hook,good sliding foot work and a self belief almost unequaled.

[TitoFan]

When Lennox was motivated, he was nearly unbeatable. And he had the physical tools... size, reach, power, boxing skills. Yeah, he got KO'd by McCall and Rahman, but look how he came back.

Tyson did the best he could with his limited size, but prime Tyson would've still lost to prime (and motivated) Lewis.

Bowe was gifted, but an underachiever. If Golota hadn't been incredibly moronic, he would've KTFO'ed Bowe, instead of getting stupidly DQ'ed.

Holyfield was a warrior, but was still a pumped-up LHW and would lose to a prime Lewis.

Wlad? He's good and improving, but he's lucky there's not a prime Lewis around to fight. Otherwise, it'd be a different story.

I think it's Lewis.

Titofan I'm with you on Lewis all & all.He stikes me as One that gets more and more appreciation in hindsight & reflecting on career Imo.....for me anyway.His war with Mercer really made me turn the corner and realize that this man is for real and demands respect.....forget all of the stereo types about Euro Heavys.....he took that non-logic and tossed it in the trashcan.And yeh,he was also jobbed in the 1st Holyfield fight,Terrible call by the judges.

One thing though,We have got to put this Idea that Holyfield was just an oversized Lt.Hvy or Cruiser to bed.True,compared to many in history and even his own Era he was the lighter man......but only in literal #'s.He competed with The best big men of his time and I personally believe at his prime he could have more than held his own with any Heavy in History.No,not beat all of them but belongs right up there.......He was far more than just a big heart.Tremendous counter puncher,anvil Chin,underrated left hook,good sliding foot work and a self belief almost unequaled.

Good points, Spicoli. I have to admit that I tend to slight Holyfield a little bit. Not that I dislike him or haven't enjoyed watching his fights. And I definitely admire his move into the HWs more than I do someone like Toney. One reason being that Holyfield was always in tremendous physical shape, whereas Toney's weight was mostly fat. I've always admired Holyfield's warrior mentality as well. Plus, he's always been a humble person, never arrogant.

But something inside my brain always makes me think of Holyfield in the light-heavyweight sense. Even his victories over Tyson, as amazing as they were, always struck me as kind of "fluke-ish". I can't see even a prime Holyfield ever beating a prime Mike Tyson. Maybe that's why I consider Holyfield a great "over-achiever". 'Cause he's gotten more mileage out of his size and skills than many other fighters would have.

[rjj tszyu]

When Lennox was motivated, he was nearly unbeatable. And he had the physical tools... size, reach, power, boxing skills. Yeah, he got KO'd by McCall and Rahman, but look how he came back.

Tyson did the best he could with his limited size, but prime Tyson would've still lost to prime (and motivated) Lewis.

Bowe was gifted, but an underachiever. If Golota hadn't been incredibly moronic, he would've KTFO'ed Bowe, instead of getting stupidly DQ'ed.

Holyfield was a warrior, but was still a pumped-up LHW and would lose to a prime Lewis.

Wlad? He's good and improving, but he's lucky there's not a prime Lewis around to fight. Otherwise, it'd be a different story.

I think it's Lewis.

Titofan I'm with you on Lewis all & all.He stikes me as One that gets more and more appreciation in hindsight & reflecting on career Imo.....for me anyway.His war with Mercer really made me turn the corner and realize that this man is for real and demands respect.....forget all of the stereo types about Euro Heavys.....he took that non-logic and tossed it in the trashcan.And yeh,he was also jobbed in the 1st Holyfield fight,Terrible call by the judges.

One thing though,We have got to put this Idea that Holyfield was just an oversized Lt.Hvy or Cruiser to bed.True,compared to many in history and even his own Era he was the lighter man......but only in literal #'s.He competed with The best big men of his time and I personally believe at his prime he could have more than held his own with any Heavy in History.No,not beat all of them but belongs right up there.......He was far more than just a big heart.Tremendous counter puncher,anvil Chin,underrated left hook,good sliding foot work and a self belief almost unequaled.

Good points, Spicoli. I have to admit that I tend to slight Holyfield a little bit. Not that I dislike him or haven't enjoyed watching his fights. And I definitely admire his move into the HWs more than I do someone like Toney. One reason being that Holyfield was always in tremendous physical shape, whereas Toney's weight was mostly fat. I've always admired Holyfield's warrior mentality as well. Plus, he's always been a humble person, never arrogant.

But something inside my brain always makes me think of Holyfield in the light-heavyweight sense. Even his victories over Tyson, as amazing as they were, always struck me as kind of "fluke-ish". I can't see even a prime Holyfield ever beating a prime Mike Tyson. Maybe that's why I consider Holyfield a great "over-achiever". 'Cause he's gotten more mileage out of his size and skills than many other fighters would have.

Holyfield is one of my favourite ever heavys (behind only Marciano and Ali) so maybe I'm being slightly biased but personally I think that he would have beaten Tyson at any point in their careers.

[SweetPea]

Good points, Spicoli. I have to admit that I tend to slight Holyfield a little bit. Not that I dislike him or haven't enjoyed watching his fights. And I definitely admire his move into the HWs more than I do someone like Toney. One reason being that Holyfield was always in tremendous physical shape, whereas Toney's weight was mostly fat. I've always admired Holyfield's warrior mentality as well. Plus, he's always been a humble person, never arrogant.

But something inside my brain always makes me think of Holyfield in the light-heavyweight sense. Even his victories over Tyson, as amazing as they were, always struck me as kind of "fluke-ish". I can't see even a prime Holyfield ever beating a prime Mike Tyson. Maybe that's why I consider Holyfield a great "over-achiever". 'Cause he's gotten more mileage out of his size and skills than many other fighters would have.

Holyfield is one of my favourite ever heavys (behind only Marciano and Ali) so maybe I'm being slightly biased but personally I think that he would have beaten Tyson at any point in their careers.

I think you're both right. Holyfield is an over-achiever and was never a truly dominant heavyweight champion (he struggled in his prime against Cooper, Foreman, Holmes, etc.)

On the other hand, I agree with rjj that Holyfield would have beaten Tyson no matter when they fought. Holyfield simply had Tyson's number and always will.

[Spicoli]

Good points, Spicoli. I have to admit that I tend to slight Holyfield a little bit. Not that I dislike him or haven't enjoyed watching his fights. And I definitely admire his move into the HWs more than I do someone like Toney. One reason being that Holyfield was always in tremendous physical shape, whereas Toney's weight was mostly fat. I've always admired Holyfield's warrior mentality as well. Plus, he's always been a humble person, never arrogant.

But something inside my brain always makes me think of Holyfield in the light-heavyweight sense. Even his victories over Tyson, as amazing as they were, always struck me as kind of "fluke-ish". I can't see even a prime Holyfield ever beating a prime Mike Tyson. Maybe that's why I consider Holyfield a great "over-achiever". 'Cause he's gotten more mileage out of his size and skills than many other fighters would have.

Holyfield is one of my favourite ever heavys (behind only Marciano and Ali) so maybe I'm being slightly biased but personally I think that he would have beaten Tyson at any point in their careers.

I think you're both right. Holyfield is an over-achiever and was never a truly dominant heavyweight champion (he struggled in his prime against Cooper, Foreman, Holmes, etc.)

On the other hand, I agree with rjj that Holyfield would have beaten Tyson no matter when they fought. Holyfield simply had Tyson's number and always will.

Agreed on that one.People often forget what chances many gave him going in with Tyson at the time....slim & none in the media.Tysons desperation in the rematch spoke volumes to his confidence in beating Holyfield.Mentally it was not even close IMo.

[Mr140]

I think Lewis is the man to win it he has beat everyone on the list damn near prime or no prim think Lennox Lewis wins it.