body building boxers

[ICB]

..why arent they boxers?, more mass you have = more force, CONSIDERING YOU KNOW HOW TO BOX.

If you take a hit, your muscles can absorb it rather than your bony ass ribs, thats why some boxers build muscle.

Im not saying its bad thing to build muscle i know all about building muscle mass, but boxers who want 22 inch biceps or anything to that extreme aren't boxers and aren't in the right sport. There punches would be so slow that you could go out for 5 mins and get a drink and comeback and still have time to avoid there punches. I do weights myself some Squats, Deadlifts, etc. But i wouldn't go to the extreme that i would want to look like the incredible hulk. Boxing is about having speed, heart, stamina, flexability, amongst a lot of other things, not how big your biceps are.

[Salty]

..why arent they boxers?, more mass you have = more force, CONSIDERING YOU KNOW HOW TO BOX.

If you take a hit, your muscles can absorb it rather than your bony ass ribs, thats why some boxers build muscle.

Im not saying its bad thing to build muscle i know all about building muscle mass, but boxers who want 22 inch biceps or anything to that extreme aren't boxers and aren't in the right sport. There punches would be so slow that you could go out for 5 mins and get a drink and comeback and still have time to avoid there punches. I do weights myself some Squats, Deadlifts, etc. But i wouldn't go to the extreme that i would want to look like the incredible hulk. Boxing is about having speed, heart, stamina, flexability, amongst a lot of other things, not how big your biceps are.

Well said, muscles can only take you so far in this game. Personally I love the way boxing makes me look, but I don't do boxing to have that 6 pack. I do boxing for boxing, whether that be punched in the face, spewing after a punchout drill or waking up and not being able to move the next morning. I think that's what differentiates a boxer and others, their desire for the sport and not the desire for admiration, a good body or fans.

[tyciol]

If you were wanting to put mass behind your hits wouldn't it make more sense to build it in the forearms instead of in the biceps? People rarely get hit in the biceps, but they get hit in the forearms all the time (with guard up) and that's the mass which is going to matter more for stuff like jabs which you don't put your full weight behind. Plus it helps to build more stable wrists for hitting with.

[Youngblood]

If you were wanting to put mass behind your hits wouldn't it make more sense to build it in the forearms instead of in the biceps? People rarely get hit in the biceps, but they get hit in the forearms all the time (with guard up) and that's the mass which is going to matter more for stuff like jabs which you don't put your full weight behind. Plus it helps to build more stable wrists for hitting with.

I think it is fair to say that most of us in here know the biceps aren't a muscle group most required for boxing, but is still needed to be worked for balance and mobility in accessing the triceps shoulders and lats and the whole power system as it moves our center of gravity from the feet upward to bring that powerful punch we seek to fruition. Form of course is what is truly going to create it, but having a physique ready to delivery that proper form is optimal I believe.

I agree with the forearm strengthening...and wrists and hands. Maybe not for the same reasons, but I can't think of a part of the body that couldn't use strengthening for boxing.

I wouldn't want to abandon biceps and end up disproportioned ...but also have no interest in having them be large and purdy...like about 3/4's of the people I know personally who lift for looks.

I do think it is important to know when is enough though, for building, and that personally is something I am looking at. For both age and growth and potential long term damage...plus just for a good balanced boxing physique.

[tyciol]

I agree, it's good to build it for balance and stuff, but by that same logic you would also want to train your lats/traps/rhomboids too, so I don't really see the point in doing isolation stuff like curls when you can train more muscles in a balanced fashion by doing chins/pulls/rows.

[Trainer Monkey]

..why arent they boxers?, more mass you have = more force, CONSIDERING YOU KNOW HOW TO BOX.

If you take a hit, your muscles can absorb it rather than your bony ass ribs, thats why some boxers build muscle.

Im not saying its bad thing to build muscle i know all about building muscle mass, but boxers who want 22 inch biceps or anything to that extreme aren't boxers and aren't in the right sport. There punches would be so slow that you could go out for 5 mins and get a drink and comeback and still have time to avoid there punches. I do weights myself some Squats, Deadlifts, etc. But i wouldn't go to the extreme that i would want to look like the incredible hulk. Boxing is about having speed, heart, stamina, flexability, amongst a lot of other things, not how big your biceps are.

Im saying it is
Too much bulk,equals too much weight for your frame to carry and properly drive with, equals injuries a plenty, and crap for speed to boot

[iceman]

thanx monkey i guess that is more the point i wanted to make.

[Youngblood]

I'm pretty sure I knew what you meant too iceman. And also agree. I just was confused as to where it was directed. The thing which attracted me to Saddo right away was I noticed the posters were more well-rounded in their knowledge, or seeking of info. then just how to get big and strong.

I still go to most of the other sites as more of a spectator, and sometimes troll just for a laugh. I was just at one (like minutes ago) and had a giggle thinking of this thread...because one of the first posts I saw in the training section was..."How big are your biceps?" lol Not even kidding.

[iceman]

the best answer for that should be" well i need your help'" Can you scratch my ass?"

[ono]

Weight lifting for aesthetics isn't very beneficial to a boxer.

I can't see many fighters building stupidly sized biceps or triceps without moving up several weight classes anyway. Your not likely to see 9 stone fighters with 16 inch arms.

Unless you're really genetically gifted it would be very difficult. It comes down to muscle fibers....

For example, an athlete may have a 50/50 mix of fast twitch/slow twitch fibers in a muscle, but since FT fibers normally
have a larger cross-sectional area than ST fibers, 65% of that muscle's area may be FT and 35% may be ST. Following a strength training program for improvement in muscular strength, the number of FT and ST fibers will remain the same (still 50/50), however the cross-sectional area will change. This happens because the ST fibers will atrophy (get smaller) while the FT fibers will hypertrophy (get larger).
Depending on the specific intensity used in training, the muscle may change to a 75% FT area and a 25% ST area. The change in area will lead to greater strength but decreased endurance capabilities. In addition, since the mass of FT fibers are greater than that of ST fibers, the athlete will gain mass, as measured by the circumference of the muscle.
If the athlete trains for muscular endurance, the FT fibers will atrophy while the ST fibers hypertrophy, causing a greater area of ST fibers. The area of the muscle, which began at 65% FT and 35% ST before training, may change to 50% FT and 50% ST following training, The endurance capabilities of the muscle will increase while its strength will decrease, and the athlete will lose some muscle mass, again because ST fibers are lower in mass than FT fibers. The decrease in mass may be observed by a smaller circumference of the muscle.

That pretty much says everything i wanted to say about it. Maybe a little better

Basically explains why it would be very difficult for a boxer to build insanely big arms while having fantastic endurance....unless he was built like an actual brick shithouse to begin with...in which case his arms would already be insanely big.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Boxing uses the musclo-skeletal system in order to generate force.
This implies that a boxer in order to create physical power (at the point of impact of his fist) must utilise perfect technique when utilising the skeletal system to pivot, twist, create leverage and direct the punch.

This requires the development of functional muscle. Functional muscle obviously aids the body in moving the skeletal system. The development of the muscles allows for faster, more explosive and more powerful movements of the body.

Functional muscle is sport specific. In boxing the individual must target the muscles that need development and in this way they can actually increase punching power, movement and speed.
Of course, given the nature of the sport, the individual must also tend to the rest of the body and tend to aerobic and anaerobic fitness. Muscle must also be trained to increase endurance, so size is not advantageous.
The biceps have little function in boxing, but in order to develop ones body to full capacity, every muscle must be attended to.

Nothing for a young amateur boxer to be worried about though.
They'd be much better served perfecting their technique first