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[Scrap]

Now the interesting bit, years ago 69 to be exact I started playing with rubber a first I think or so people tell me, and Ive never been slow to ask people who knew more than me, there were plenty questions. Im not telling you how but here are a few clues. Your bodys Heart works 35% better Horizontal on your back, also with the tests weve done in the laboratry using certain techniques the body pruduces 30% less latic acid remember lactic shuttle, Fuel. Okay because youre flat gravity isnt such an issue with your venus returns your Heart isnt pumping up less stress plus theres very little impact on joints. Now you can get as much stress and impact three or four days a week as you ever want. But wouldnt it be nice with the rest of your time if you were work and help repair the damage you created and help the body work and adapt to working with less fuel injury free that sounds a good idea, its all done with rubber ,balls and all TBC

[Scrap]

Ive had a bollocking, anyway something else Fit Balls. The things you can do with these things are endless with a bit of imagenation anything as regards good Technique are endless theres Hundreds of ways to power stretch your way to technique and correct form. They are probably the best thing in a gym at this time. Honest Ive come up with Hundreds of ways to icorperate good practice using these things, Ive nothing better to do with my time . Yhese and 5 feet of rubber are wonderfull in a bit Ill put a few up if the wife will let me. Better Better best never let it rest untill your Betters Better and your Best is Best.

[Sharla]

Awesome thread thanks Scrap!

Thanks for mentioning it in the Running thread too Bomp - i haven't kept up with checking the forum as carefully as I used to lately and I might have stupidly missed it!

Damn this rep spreading thing! I'd like to rep you Scrap and wanted to rep Salty before too have to spread it!

I sit on a fitball more often than a chair now. At home where I have more space than at uni I put my feet on my wobble board so I can't even brace against the floor to slouch.

I want to put a plank or something over a water bottle or can under my uni desk for the same reason but haven't gotten organized yet (as per usual).

I had NO idea how much I slouched to the right until I couldn't (do it as much) anymore.

I'm not really creative with my fitballs though - i'll have to sit down one day and see what I can come up with and post it and see whether or not it's any good.

In the meantime I'm loving this thread Scrap and I'll be re-reading it a few times i think!

[Salty]

Yeah I tried that fitball one you suggested scrap, where you start with the ball straight in front. Then slowly bring your arms into right angles with it, seemed to work pretty well. I did one where your sort of isometrically punching the ball as hard as you can into a wall, don't know if it did much but defently could feel it afterwards.

[Sharla]

Hi Scrap,

I was just thinking about the verti-run. When i attempted a makeshift version of it (which i'm sure is pretty rough and ready compared to the real thing) i didn't have any resistance and couldn't get my heart rate up either.

Still you're moving while you're on it - so you must be working something right?!?! It's not really cardio and not really strength training - unless it works deep internal muscles which you feel less - good for the circulatory system? Allows more efficent pumping of blood by your heart?

[Sharla]

ok so this was probably staring me in the face and I only just realized it.

Perhaps the whole idea of the fifth phase being a break and the horizontal running are not completely unrelated.

In plants you will get a different response to stress depending on the severity and duration of the stress. Some responses just take a little longer to kick in or are only applicable within a certain range.

So I don't see why the same thing wouldn't apply to humans. I mean our bodies really can't be bothered going to a huge effort to make our system ready for a particular type of effort if our effort is over almost as soon as we begin. That would be a waste of resources.

So if we're fighting over the remote on the coach for 5 seconds before going back into a resting state I wouldn't expect the body to react in the same way it would to tolerate the stress of exercising over a longer duration.

Still it'd be great to have the mechanisms which help you maximise exercise benefit and minimise damage as soon as you begin exercise - which is why we warm up. Perhaps that extra 20 mins or so after the warm up allows the slower physiological responses to kick in (maybe hormonal ?).

The horizontal running takes away stress but probably activates some of the same responses that vertical running would? So if you had it as part of your warm up - you wouldn't be stressing anything but you'd also have you body a little more prepared than you otherwise would before exerting stress?

It would also allow correct posture to be supported. No stress, chemical/ hormonal preparation and physical support for the correct form before starting exercise would all be a huge benefit right?

Maybe, sorta, kinda - ish?

[Scrap]

Find something on Latic shuttle some clues you should find.

[Salty]

ok so this was probably staring me in the face and I only just realized it.

Perhaps the whole idea of the fifth phase being a break and the horizontal running are not completely unrelated.

In plants you will get a different response to stress depending on the severity and duration of the stress. Some responses just take a little longer to kick in or are only applicable within a certain range.

So I don't see why the same thing wouldn't apply to humans. I mean our bodies really can't be bothered going to a huge effort to make our system ready for a particular type of effort if our effort is over almost as soon as we begin. That would be a waste of resources.

So if we're fighting over the remote on the coach for 5 seconds before going back into a resting state I wouldn't expect the body to react in the same way it would to tolerate the stress of exercising over a longer duration.

Still it'd be great to have the mechanisms which help you maximise exercise benefit and minimise damage as soon as you begin exercise - which is why we warm up. Perhaps that extra 20 mins or so after the warm up allows the slower physiological responses to kick in (maybe hormonal ?).

The horizontal running takes away stress but probably activates some of the same responses that vertical running would? So if you had it as part of your warm up - you wouldn't be stressing anything but you'd also have you body a little more prepared than you otherwise would before exerting stress?

It would also allow correct posture to be supported. No stress, chemical/ hormonal preparation and physical support for the correct form before starting exercise would all be a huge benefit right?

Maybe, sorta, kinda - ish?

Found a good article on the lactate shuttle concerning the transporters MCT1 and MCT4 and seems to fit your plant ideas. Increasing these (mainly MTC1) results in an elevated lactate transport capacity, which in turn delays both muscle lactate accumilation and intracellular pH decrease (burning sensation when exercising). The ways to improve these are related to intensity, duration of exercise and existing levels of fitness.

Also found a good article about a centrifugal replacement for weights, although don't really know if that's, I'll just continue on the quest.

[Sharla]

Your bodys Heart works 35% better Horizontal on your back, also with the tests weve done in the laboratry using certain techniques the body pruduces 30% less latic acid remember lactic shuttle, Fuel. Okay because youre flat gravity isnt such an issue with your venus returns your Heart isnt pumping up less stress plus theres very little impact on joints. Now you can get as much stress and impact three or four days a week as you ever want. But wouldnt it be nice with the rest of your time if you were work and help repair the damage you created and help the body work and adapt to working with less fuel injury free that sounds a good idea, its all done with rubber ,balls and all TBC

yep you're right i should have reread Scraps posts before thinking there was more -

I'm thinking horizontal if lying down reduces your blood plasma volume also then the osmotic potential of your blood might be greater? So even without drinking more water you are more hydrated. Water get's into your muscle cells more easily - you sweat less and loose less K through your sweat. Makes lactate metabolism more efficient that way too perhaps.

[Sharla]

I also found something that said that lactate supply required by the brain (also fed by glucose but lactate is important during exercise) is reduced with time and intensity. I'm guessing that begins to explain what Scrap said about hydration, exercise fatigue and perception.

It also explains why if I want to distract myself during a long run I calculate what fraction I have left to run or have run already and recalculating that is so difficult in my semi-retarded state it keeps my mind fully occupied.

I always thought it was just glucose and oxygen but i guess it's more than that.