who is the best british fighter of the last 10 years?

[Fenster]

I think some confuse the term best with that of greatest. There are marked differences.

Go on then

[Gandalf]

I think some confuse the term best with that of greatest. There are marked differences.

Go on then

Alright then...

The greatest is something that encapsulates the fighter who has achieved the most. Lewis was in the so called ultimate divisision and won a lot of big fights. He had his flaws though but was able to fix what was wrong. He proved his greatness but revealed great flaws.

But I think Calzaghe is the best. He hasnt beaten all the names Lewis has but he hasnt lost and I dont think he has revealed real weaknesses. He has no silly chin for example. He doesnt under prepare. He has the best raw skills. Calzaghe is the best of those fighters.

Lewis was a heavyweight which gives him the greatness, but skills wise the smaller guys are obviously better. And Calzaghe is the best of them.

[Fenster]

I think some confuse the term best with that of greatest. There are marked differences.

Go on then

Alright then...

The greatest is something that encapsulates the fighter who has achieved the most. Lewis was in the so called ultimate divisision and won a lot of big fights. He had his flaws though but was able to fix what was wrong. He proved his greatness but revealed great flaws.

But I think Calzaghe is the best. He hasnt beaten all the names Lewis has but he hasnt lost and I dont think he has revealed real weaknesses. He has no silly chin for example. He doesnt under prepare. He has the best raw skills. Calzaghe is the best of those fighters.

Lewis was a heavyweight which gives him the greatness, but skills wise the smaller guys are obviously better. And Calzaghe is the best of them.

Good post.

Although I wouldn't say Lewis had a "silly chin".

And I still rate Lewis the best of that three.

[Gandalf]

Go on then

Alright then...

The greatest is something that encapsulates the fighter who has achieved the most. Lewis was in the so called ultimate divisision and won a lot of big fights. He had his flaws though but was able to fix what was wrong. He proved his greatness but revealed great flaws.

But I think Calzaghe is the best. He hasnt beaten all the names Lewis has but he hasnt lost and I dont think he has revealed real weaknesses. He has no silly chin for example. He doesnt under prepare. He has the best raw skills. Calzaghe is the best of those fighters.

Lewis was a heavyweight which gives him the greatness, but skills wise the smaller guys are obviously better. And Calzaghe is the best of them.

Good post.

Although I wouldn't say Lewis had a "silly chin".

And I still rate Lewis the best of that three.

Its my Tuesday night so Im liable to slip with my phraseology. Lewis didnt have a silly chin as a number of his fights have proven. But he could be knocked out by a lower breed of fighter. Rahman was a decidedly unfortunate affair. Hopefully James Toney will knock out that chump next week!

Ultimately its all down to opinions or just how you interpret the question so Ive no issues with the judgements made. I just have my own way of defining how the said judgement is made. And like Calzaghe as the fighter that is better in terms of beating any of those other fighters P4P.

I do think the initial question is seriously flawed and needs to define its terms more effectively.

[Fenster]

Alright then...

The greatest is something that encapsulates the fighter who has achieved the most. Lewis was in the so called ultimate divisision and won a lot of big fights. He had his flaws though but was able to fix what was wrong. He proved his greatness but revealed great flaws.

But I think Calzaghe is the best. He hasnt beaten all the names Lewis has but he hasnt lost and I dont think he has revealed real weaknesses. He has no silly chin for example. He doesnt under prepare. He has the best raw skills. Calzaghe is the best of those fighters.

Lewis was a heavyweight which gives him the greatness, but skills wise the smaller guys are obviously better. And Calzaghe is the best of them.

Good post.

Although I wouldn't say Lewis had a "silly chin".

And I still rate Lewis the best of that three.

Its my Tuesday night so Im liable to slip with my phraseology. Lewis didnt have a silly chin as a number of his fights have proven. But he could be knocked out by a lower breed of fighter. Rahman was a decidedly unfortunate affair. Hopefully James Toney will knock out that chump next week!

Ultimately its all down to opinions or just how you interpret the question so Ive no issues with the judgements made. I just have my own way of defining how the said judgement is made. And like Calzaghe as the fighter that is better in terms of beating any of those other fighters P4P.

I do think the initial question is seriously flawed and needs to define its terms more effectively.

I'm not sure who would win in a P4P situation. I didn't really look at it like that. Lewis sort of had a dominant presence that I don't think Calzaghe has ever really possessed.

I'd confidently pick Calzaghe to beat Hatton P4P though... and Lewis would easily KO him (Hatt).

[GAME]

Pleasantly surprised to see the results of the poll.

I voted Lewis but Expected Hatton to have a huge lead in the poll . Sanity prevailed though and Joe was second with the Hitman in 3rd place. History will rank them that way anyway .

[rjj tszyu]

Pleasantly surprised to see the results of the poll.

I voted Lewis but Expected Hatton to have a huge lead in the poll . Sanity prevailed though and Joe was second with the Hitman in 3rd place. History will rank them that way anyway .

We'll see when my old man Roy has knocked Joe around for a few rounds just how great he really is!

[frozensolid_702]

Joe Calzaghe by a mile.


Lennox got real good, but was very beatable at a point in his career. You can't say the same about Joe C. And keep in mind, Calzaghe would smash on anybody from middleweight, supermiddleweight, and light heavyweight. That's 3 divisions....

[rjj tszyu]

Joe Calzaghe by a mile.


Lennox got real good, but was very beatable at a point in his career. You can't say the same about Joe C. And keep in mind, Calzaghe would smash on anybody from middleweight, supermiddleweight, and light heavyweight. That's 3 divisions....

Yeah your right but he would wait until they are about 43 before he wants to fight them and then still struggle and get put on his arse. I mean could you imagine what would have happened to him against the Hopkins that beat Tito or the Jones that battered Hill and Griffin and Malinga and Ruiz and Toney and Hopkins (in his prime).

[BIG H]

I'd go with Lennox. I don't think he loses any credibility for the Vitali fight, if giving somebody 50 stitches and making that kind of damage to somebodies face doesn't mean you have won the fight I don't know what does. If you saw a fight in the pub and somebody ended up like Vitali, would you say 'oh but the other guy was a couple of points ahead on my scorecard' Lewis did a job on him - simple as.

[rjj tszyu]

I think some confuse the term best with that of greatest. There are marked differences.

Go on then

Alright then...

The greatest is something that encapsulates the fighter who has achieved the most. Lewis was in the so called ultimate divisision and won a lot of big fights. He had his flaws though but was able to fix what was wrong. He proved his greatness but revealed great flaws.

But I think Calzaghe is the best. He hasnt beaten all the names Lewis has but he hasnt lost and I dont think he has revealed real weaknesses. He has no silly chin for example. He doesnt under prepare. He has the best raw skills. Calzaghe is the best of those fighters.

Lewis was a heavyweight which gives him the greatness, but skills wise the smaller guys are obviously better. And Calzaghe is the best of them.

Well personally in general I would agree but I think that Ali was more skillfull a boxer than a lot of "greats" in lower divisions than him including Calzaghe. So smaller doesn't necessarily mean "obviously better". I know where your coming from though.

[Gandalf]

Go on then

Alright then...

The greatest is something that encapsulates the fighter who has achieved the most. Lewis was in the so called ultimate divisision and won a lot of big fights. He had his flaws though but was able to fix what was wrong. He proved his greatness but revealed great flaws.

But I think Calzaghe is the best. He hasnt beaten all the names Lewis has but he hasnt lost and I dont think he has revealed real weaknesses. He has no silly chin for example. He doesnt under prepare. He has the best raw skills. Calzaghe is the best of those fighters.

Lewis was a heavyweight which gives him the greatness, but skills wise the smaller guys are obviously better. And Calzaghe is the best of them.

Well personally in general I would agree but I think that Ali was more skillfull a boxer than a lot of "greats" in lower divisions than him including Calzaghe. So smaller doesn't necessarily mean "obviously better". I know where your coming from though.

I dont think smaller always equates with being better in boxing. I just think with these three boxers the middle sized one is the better one.