Chavez Jr. to retire???

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Fighters aren't what they used to be anymore... Adversity is a part of any sport. We can't all be Tysons, Whitakers, Jones, Mayweathers, Ali, and the such who saw adversity rarely and mainly at the end of their careers due to being such forces of nature. Everyone want thisngs handed to them nowadays.

Agreed on this. In fairness to Junior, there's been a huge amount of pressure and expectation on him, then agin his purses have been inflated considering the true level of his talent so he can't feel to bad for himself.

His father's record was padded for years and years. His dad just turned out to be physically gifted. JR may have those same gifts... Who knows... We didn't find out with Sr till like his 60th fight... But his father also knew that when adversity struck that he had the heart and mind to fight through it. He had experience behind him and the knowlege that he's been here before. We'll never know with Jr, I guess as he doesn't want to test those waters, it seems

[Bomp]

Fighters aren't what they used to be anymore... Adversity is a part of any sport. We can't all be Tysons, Whitakers, Jones, Mayweathers, Ali, and the such who saw adversity rarely and mainly at the end of their careers due to being such forces of nature. Everyone want thisngs handed to them nowadays.

Agreed on this. In fairness to Junior, there's been a huge amount of pressure and expectation on him, then agin his purses have been inflated considering the true level of his talent so he can't feel to bad for himself.

His father's record was padded for years and years. His dad just turned out to be physically gifted. JR may have those same gifts... Who knows... We didn't find out with Sr till like his 60th fight... But his father also knew that when adversity struck that he had the heart and mind to fight through it. He had experience behind him and the knowlege that he's been here before. We'll never know with Jr, I guess as he doesn't want to test those waters, it seems

I see what you're getting at now. It's also possible that it was a heat of the moment comment, and everyones been there after a dissappointment, we'll have to wait and see on Junior.

[Wayne]

You can't help but think that the son of a famous fighter doesn't have the same passion because he didn't have the adversity growing up. Chavez Jr. didn't have the same worries of his father, he didn't NEED to fight. In a way, it's a good thing that Mayweather Sr.'s career was cut short in that Mayweather Jr. still had to struggle. He NEEDED to fight. If a good life had been handed to him he probably wouldn't have gotten to the level he did. I think Roy Jones is probably an exception because his father scared the shit out of him. I'm sorry, when you carry around a knife because you're afraid of pops coming after you...

[Mar]

I've been down on the kid, but this type of rough fight, enviroment etc...is exactly what i thought he needed. If he thought he was going to get instant approval for having his daddy's name then this fight showed him different, but you know what you made it through and with a win in fact. Now you want to quit cause your daddy got booo'ed. Or cause people don't want to hear the old " i was sick story". Another example of if you aren't %100 and not ready to live with the results reguardless of the outcome then don't fight. I'd respect a fighter more that says you know what i'm human and i lost it happens. But this kid wants to quit ?? I hope there is a lot more to the story. This is another reason why i am all for fighters getting paid as much as they possibly can for fights,fighting for pride and fans is extremly important but the fans come and go. Bills don't, they're always there even after you retire. The same fans that threw beer in favor of chavez sr (even in some questionable decisions) were now throwing beer and shit at him in defense of his son , how quick people turn...

[El Kabong]

Sounds like some Saddoboxing posters took in two fights this weekend.


Pride sometimes guys that are "good regional fighters" give top level guys a tough time....Chuck Wepner? Joe Hipp? Michael Bentt? Kirkland Laing? Luis Collazo?


That's why you FIGHT the fight and don't depend on paper to figure it out

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Sounds like some Saddoboxing posters took in two fights this weekend.


Pride sometimes guys that are "good regional fighters" give top level guys a tough time....Chuck Wepner? Joe Hipp? Michael Bentt? Kirkland Laing? Luis Collazo?


That's why you FIGHT the fight and don't depend on paper to figure it out

This was the point of my posts

[Chino]

Fighters aren't what they used to be anymore... Adversity is a part of any sport. We can't all be Tysons, Whitakers, Jones, Mayweathers, Ali, and the such who saw adversity rarely and mainly at the end of their careers due to being such forces of nature. Everyone want thisngs handed to them nowadays.

Agreed on this. In fairness to Junior, there's been a huge amount of pressure and expectation on him, then agin his purses have been inflated considering the true level of his talent so he can't feel to bad for himself.

His father's record was padded for years and years. His dad just turned out to be physically gifted. JR may have those same gifts... Who knows... We didn't find out with Sr till like his 60th fight

...and after all those years, boy! did he show boxing he really had gifts! whoa! All those accomplishments . No wonder he is a hall of famer.

A mistake some boxers have made is to fight for the fans and not themselves. Eric thought the first fight against Pac was not exciting and he won that fight convincingly. I can't even think of any Pac fan having a doubt that Pac lost CLEARLY and that is really something. But on the second one he wanted to "make it more exciting" and decided to exchange with Pac and that was a mistake that cost him a loss. Add to that Pac skills that have improved and not just the charge and hit with the straight left that he used to rely on all the time.

Come on Jr! You'll get booed, you'll get cheered! It's part of it! Boxing legends went through all that. Do it for YOURSELF and fans will appreciate that.

[littlebif]

He won the fight and he's still on about retiring what would he of done if he lost? starting crying in the ring refuing to leave

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

He won the fight and he's still on about retiring what would he of done if he lost? starting crying in the ring refuing to leave

who knows and after his antics who cares...

Oh JCC Jr... You've stamped such an unforgetable stamp on boxing what shall w all do without you!?!?! We shall be lost without you as our flame to light the way!

[TitoFan]

He won the fight and he's still on about retiring what would he of done if he lost? starting crying in the ring refuing to leave

who knows and after his antics who cares...

Oh JCC Jr... You've stamped such an unforgetable stamp on boxing what shall w all do without you!?!?! We shall be lost without you as our flame to light the way!

One of the best-placed bits of sarcasm I've seen in a long time.

[Chino]

He won the fight and he's still on about retiring what would he of done if he lost? starting crying in the ring refuing to leave

He won the fight but the crowd wanted to see a KO .

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

He won the fight and he's still on about retiring what would he of done if he lost? starting crying in the ring refuing to leave

He won the fight but the crowd wanted to see a KO .

What crowd have you ever seen that didn't want to see a KO

[Chino]

He won the fight and he's still on about retiring what would he of done if he lost? starting crying in the ring refuing to leave

He won the fight but the crowd wanted to see a KO .

What crowd have you ever seen that didn't want to see a KO

Aw shoot! Heheheh! You're right.

[Macho]

He won the fight but the crowd wanted to see a KO .

What crowd have you ever seen that didn't want to see a KO

Aw shoot! Heheheh! You're right.

Hey Chino , eso le pasa a cualquiera Mi Pana...............lololololol

[james1]

No amateur background experience, very young, and son of a legend with tremendous pressure to knock out everyone and then get booed is a very tough thing to absorb. A previous post had it right "he needs to fight for himself ,not the fans", plus a drunk Mexican crowd can get very rowdy and unforgiving because that is what that crowd wants, a K.O. at every fight. He did very good considering his background and he has the tools to be great, those trainers he has need to be replaced. Mexican trainers are notorious for being conservative and arrogant, also with an all guns blazing attitude that hurt their fighters. Just look at Eric Morales, his father was overbearing and arrogant feeding him improper advice that Eric at one point parted ways with his father/trainer. Chavez Jr. should start thinking about the next fight and forget the last fight, a rematch would be beautiful that I could see Chavez Jr. knocking out Vanda. But he needs to regroup and do away with all that posse that feed him bullshit and bad advice. Omar Chavez(younger brother) is a much better fighter than his father or brother, keep an eye for him because the kid has power and skills that are amazing.