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    Default Re: Calzaghe: i want Pavlik after Jones

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Following breaking news of Calzaghe's intent to stick around for more fights at the 168lb Super Middleweight division, Calzaghe has given his first interview with The Times since his break up with long time promoter Frank Warren and has openly mentioned the potential match-up against Kelly Pavlik :-

    “There is no way I am going to give up my WBO title,” Calzaghe announced to The Time's Ron Lewis “I do not have a mandatory (to his WBO title) at the moment so I do not have to defend my title and if I beat Jones, Im going to move back down to super middleweight to face Kelly Pavlik"

    “I still feel young,” Calzaghe stated “...It all depends on how I perform against Jones. There's a good possibility I may fight on. I need fights that motivate me. Kessler motivated me, Hopkins motivated me, Jones motivates me. And Kelly Pavlik has been hanging around.”

    “It took me eight years [as WBO champion] to get a unification fight - I was becoming a laughing stock with some of the people I was fighting,” he said. “I was chasing guys like Jones and now they are chasing me.”
    That belt is crap


    Its a symbol nothing else that belt has the best history at 168lbs.

    Plus Hoe is one of only two men to hold all 5 recognised titles at the same weight.

    WBC,IBO,IBF,WBA,WBO and of those at 168lbs the belt with the history is the WBO the others are just tokens.

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    Default Re: Calzaghe: i want Pavlik after Jones

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Following breaking news of Calzaghe's intent to stick around for more fights at the 168lb Super Middleweight division, Calzaghe has given his first interview with The Times since his break up with long time promoter Frank Warren and has openly mentioned the potential match-up against Kelly Pavlik :-

    “There is no way I am going to give up my WBO title,” Calzaghe announced to The Time's Ron Lewis “I do not have a mandatory (to his WBO title) at the moment so I do not have to defend my title and if I beat Jones, Im going to move back down to super middleweight to face Kelly Pavlik"

    “I still feel young,” Calzaghe stated “...It all depends on how I perform against Jones. There's a good possibility I may fight on. I need fights that motivate me. Kessler motivated me, Hopkins motivated me, Jones motivates me. And Kelly Pavlik has been hanging around.”

    “It took me eight years [as WBO champion] to get a unification fight - I was becoming a laughing stock with some of the people I was fighting,” he said. “I was chasing guys like Jones and now they are chasing me.”
    That belt is crap


    Its a symbol nothing else that belt has the best history at 168lbs.

    Plus Hoe is one of only two men to hold all 5 recognised titles at the same weight.

    WBC,IBO,IBF,WBA,WBO and of those at 168lbs the belt with the history is the WBO the others are just tokens.
    OK that's just silly, they are all just tokens. The history of the WBC belt at 168 is just as strong as the WBO. And ultimately they are all meaningless against the Ring title. Calzaghe has no use for a trinket at this point in his career, does it make or break a fight with RJJ? NO, does it impact his possible one fight after RJJ? NO.
    Calzaghe has the Ring title nothing else matters, that covers all the history he needs.
    For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.

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    Default Re: Calzaghe: i want Pavlik after Jones

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    That belt is crap


    Its a symbol nothing else that belt has the best history at 168lbs.

    Plus Hoe is one of only two men to hold all 5 recognised titles at the same weight.

    WBC,IBO,IBF,WBA,WBO and of those at 168lbs the belt with the history is the WBO the others are just tokens.
    OK that's just silly, they are all just tokens. The history of the WBC belt at 168 is just as strong as the WBO. And ultimately they are all meaningless against the Ring title. Calzaghe has no use for a trinket at this point in his career, does it make or break a fight with RJJ? NO, does it impact his possible one fight after RJJ? NO.
    Calzaghe has the Ring title nothing else matters.


    Well it matters to him hes had the belt for 10yrs why give it up then fight when he can keep it and fight.

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    Default Re: Calzaghe: i want Pavlik after Jones

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
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    Its a symbol nothing else that belt has the best history at 168lbs.

    Plus Hoe is one of only two men to hold all 5 recognised titles at the same weight.

    WBC,IBO,IBF,WBA,WBO and of those at 168lbs the belt with the history is the WBO the others are just tokens.
    OK that's just silly, they are all just tokens. The history of the WBC belt at 168 is just as strong as the WBO. And ultimately they are all meaningless against the Ring title. Calzaghe has no use for a trinket at this point in his career, does it make or break a fight with RJJ? NO, does it impact his possible one fight after RJJ? NO.
    Calzaghe has the Ring title nothing else matters.


    Well it matters to him hes had the belt for 10yrs why give it up then fight when he can keep it and fight.
    The why is in the fee structure.

    If he gives it up he is free to not pay sanctioning fees. If he wants to defend it that's fine, as long as we all admit it's a novelty. From my point of view it's just a waste of money.
    For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.

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    Default Re: Calzaghe: i want Pavlik after Jones

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post

    OK that's just silly, they are all just tokens. The history of the WBC belt at 168 is just as strong as the WBO. And ultimately they are all meaningless against the Ring title. Calzaghe has no use for a trinket at this point in his career, does it make or break a fight with RJJ? NO, does it impact his possible one fight after RJJ? NO.
    Calzaghe has the Ring title nothing else matters.


    Well it matters to him hes had the belt for 10yrs why give it up then fight when he can keep it and fight.
    The why is in the fee structure.

    If he gives it up he is free to not pay sanctioning fees. If he wants to defend it that's fine, as long as we all admit it's a novelty. From my point of view it's just a waste of money.

    Maybe you think its a novelty, i think its great hes had it 10yrs id want to keep it its also the belt you would want to beat Joe for his WBO strap. Hes held all the other titles and gave them up it clearly means a lot to him.

    One mans "novelty" is another mans treasure.

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    Default Re: Calzaghe: i want Pavlik after Jones

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
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    Well it matters to him hes had the belt for 10yrs why give it up then fight when he can keep it and fight.
    The why is in the fee structure.

    If he gives it up he is free to not pay sanctioning fees. If he wants to defend it that's fine, as long as we all admit it's a novelty. From my point of view it's just a waste of money.

    Maybe you think its a novelty, i think its great hes had it 10yrs id want to keep it its also the belt you would want to beat Joe for his WBO strap. Hes held all the other titles and gave them up it clearly means a lot to him.

    One mans "novelty" is another mans treasure.
    Yes I do think it's a novelty, the alphabet straps only have meaning when the Ring belt is vacant. RJJ is not trying to beat Joe for the WBO strap, he's trying to beat him for the Ring title.
    For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.

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    Default Re: Calzaghe: i want Pavlik after Jones

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post

    The why is in the fee structure.

    If he gives it up he is free to not pay sanctioning fees. If he wants to defend it that's fine, as long as we all admit it's a novelty. From my point of view it's just a waste of money.

    Maybe you think its a novelty, i think its great hes had it 10yrs id want to keep it its also the belt you would want to beat Joe for his WBO strap. Hes held all the other titles and gave them up it clearly means a lot to him.

    One mans "novelty" is another mans treasure.
    Yes I do think it's a novelty, the alphabet straps only have meaning when the Ring belt is vacant. RJJ is not trying to beat Joe for the WBO strap, he's trying to beat him for the Ring title.

    Thats good Joe only has the ring belt at 175lb.

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    Default Re: Calzaghe: i want Pavlik after Jones

    This could be music to Roy's ears. his best hope is that Joe is overlooking him, and seeing their fight as a money making exercise. If Joe comes in to the fight thinking its gonna be easy and isnt 100% fit Roy could take advantage.
    Wishful thinking i guess.

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