Joe Calzaghe???????

[Tysonbruno]

45-0 And what come on fill me in tell me what i'm missing after years of watching i still think he is CRAP!!
In 45 fights these are the best he has fought.

Chris Eubank:
Who came in at short notice had to lose 11lbs in 7 days Eubanks was past his best but still gave Calzaghe a good fight one of his toughest in fact but this did show us what Calzaghe was made of.

Robin Reid:
Who in my eyes beat him alot of people thought so as well he should have at least got a rematch.

Omar Sheika:
Lets have it right this was a guy who got beat by Tony Booth for god sake.

Richie Woodhall:
A good fighter won a WBC world title at super middle but he nearly got beat by Glenn Catley many thought he did get beat.Then he got beat by Markus Beyer and lost his world title.Woodhall was a good fighter but just good not outstanding.

Charles Brewer:
This guy lost twice to Sven Ottke he had 8 losses before he got to Calzaghe and Calzaghe had some rough times in this fight and he should have KO'd Brewer in my opinion for it to be a impressive win.

Byron Mitchell:
A fairly good puncher won a world title vs Frankie Liles TKO11 but then went on in his first defence and drew with Bruno girard then lost it in his 2nd defence in a rematch vs Gerard.In his fight before Calzaghe lost vs Sven Ottke so it was a safe bet for Calzaghe to win.Calzaghe got dropped heavy but came back to KO mitchell a good win.

Jeff Lacy:
IBF Super Middleweight champ but well overrated and overhyped.He had good power but relied on it he had struggled vs Omar Sheika so more reason for Calzaghe to fight him.Since his loss to Calzaghe Lacy has still failed to impress vs Tsypko and Manfredo so proves to a certain degree he was overhyped.

Mikkel Kessler:
39-0 a good solid fighter number 2 in the world WBC/WBA world champ.A good competetive fight hat off to Calzaghe for this win.

Bernard Hopkins:
43 year old former middleweight champ ranked number 1 at light heavy i think Hopkins won as do many others .

I think calzaghe is overrated slightly i think people get caught up in the he's made 22 world title defences.yes he made 22 defences but went alot of easy routes to do it so could he beat a peak Hopkins or Jones the answer is NO!

[Dark Lord Al]

45-0 And what come on fill me in tell me what i'm missing after years of watching i still think he is CRAP!!
In 45 fights these are the best he has fought.

Chris Eubank:
Who came in at short notice had to lose 11lbs in 7 days Eubanks was past his best but still gave Calzaghe a good fight one of his toughest in fact but this did show us what Calzaghe was made of.

Robin Reid:
Who in my eyes beat him alot of people thought so as well he should have at least got a rematch.

Omar Sheika:
Lets have it right this was a guy who got beat by Tony Booth for god sake.

Richie Woodhall:
A good fighter won a WBC world title at super middle but he nearly got beat by Glenn Catley many thought he did get beat.Then he got beat by Markus Beyer and lost his world title.Woodhall was a good fighter but just good not outstanding.

Charles Brewer:
This guy lost twice to Sven Ottke he had 8 losses before he got to Calzaghe and Calzaghe had some rough times in this fight and he should have KO'd Brewer in my opinion for it to be a impressive win.

Byron Mitchell:
A fairly good puncher won a world title vs Frankie Liles TKO11 but then went on in his first defence and drew with Bruno girard then lost it in his 2nd defence in a rematch vs Gerard.In his fight before Calzaghe lost vs Sven Ottke so it was a safe bet for Calzaghe to win.Calzaghe got dropped heavy but came back to KO mitchell a good win.

Jeff Lacy:
IBF Super Middleweight champ but well overrated and overhyped.He had good power but relied on it he had struggled vs Omar Sheika so more reason for Calzaghe to fight him.Since his loss to Calzaghe Lacy has still failed to impress vs Tsypko and Manfredo so proves to a certain degree he was overhyped.

Mikkel Kessler:
39-0 a good solid fighter number 2 in the world WBC/WBA world champ.A good competetive fight hat off to Calzaghe for this win.

Bernard Hopkins:
43 year old former middleweight champ ranked number 1 at light heavy i think Hopkins won as do many others .

I think calzaghe is overrated slightly i think people get caught up in the he's made 22 world title defences.yes he made 22 defences but went alot of easy routes to do it so could he beat a peak Hopkins or Jones the answer is NO!

VERY WELL PUT

[Violent Demise]

Just read Calzaghe punked out again and postponed the Jones fight. I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled out completely like he did against Glen Johnson

[Markusdarkus]

Just read Calzaghe punked out again and postponed the Jones fight. I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled out completely like he did against Glen Johnson

Why would he punk out of a gimmie? Jones had no chance.

[Tysonbruno]

Just read Calzaghe punked out again and postponed the Jones fight. I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled out completely like he did against Glen Johnson

Why would he punk out of a gimmie? Jones had no chance.

Jones had no chance PLEASE!! are you sure your not Joe Calzaghe Roy Jones has every chance its Roy Jones.

[ross]

Cmon Joe!!!

Pick on someone your own age!!

[Tysonbruno]

I prefer these pics

[zhubin]

45-0 And what come on fill me in tell me what i'm missing after years of watching i still think he is CRAP!!
In 45 fights these are the best he has fought.

Chris Eubank:
Who came in at short notice had to lose 11lbs in 7 days Eubanks was past his best but still gave Calzaghe a good fight one of his toughest in fact but this did show us what Calzaghe was made of.

Robin Reid:
Who in my eyes beat him alot of people thought so as well he should have at least got a rematch.

Omar Sheika:
Lets have it right this was a guy who got beat by Tony Booth for god sake.

Richie Woodhall:
A good fighter won a WBC world title at super middle but he nearly got beat by Glenn Catley many thought he did get beat.Then he got beat by Markus Beyer and lost his world title.Woodhall was a good fighter but just good not outstanding.

Charles Brewer:
This guy lost twice to Sven Ottke he had 8 losses before he got to Calzaghe and Calzaghe had some rough times in this fight and he should have KO'd Brewer in my opinion for it to be a impressive win.

Byron Mitchell:
A fairly good puncher won a world title vs Frankie Liles TKO11 but then went on in his first defence and drew with Bruno girard then lost it in his 2nd defence in a rematch vs Gerard.In his fight before Calzaghe lost vs Sven Ottke so it was a safe bet for Calzaghe to win.Calzaghe got dropped heavy but came back to KO mitchell a good win.

Jeff Lacy:
IBF Super Middleweight champ but well overrated and overhyped.He had good power but relied on it he had struggled vs Omar Sheika so more reason for Calzaghe to fight him.Since his loss to Calzaghe Lacy has still failed to impress vs Tsypko and Manfredo so proves to a certain degree he was overhyped.

Mikkel Kessler:
39-0 a good solid fighter number 2 in the world WBC/WBA world champ.A good competetive fight hat off to Calzaghe for this win.

Bernard Hopkins:
43 year old former middleweight champ ranked number 1 at light heavy i think Hopkins won as do many others .

I think calzaghe is overrated slightly i think people get caught up in the he's made 22 world title defences.yes he made 22 defences but went alot of easy routes to do it so could he beat a peak Hopkins or Jones the answer is NO!

Well said. I personally think he is the most overrated fighter in recent memory. His 4 biggest fights where against Eubanks, Lacy, Kessler, and Hopkins. Eubanks was past his prime and still nearly beat Joe. Lacy...an overrated, one dimensional fighter. Kessler...solid fighter, but FAR from being a great fighter...Joe won a competitive fight. Hopkin's...i had the 43 year old Hopkins AT THE VERY LEAST fighting to a draw. So basically the 2 best fighter he has ever faced where a past prime Eubanks and a past prime Hopkins...2 fights and performances that hardly indicate greatness. And as far as his "flashy", pitter patter punching style...that doesn't impress me either. And this has nothing to do with some American bias. Guys like Eubanks, Benn, Lewis, etc. are 10 times the fighters that Calzaghe is.

[ross]

Eubank is one of my favourites but he didnt came anywhere near to beating Joe, he got dropped in the first and lost nearly every round.

yes Chris had alot of weight to lose but thats his fault for taking the fight.

Sheika was coming off a win over Johnson, who Joe was supposed to have avoided, Sheika has fought a few good fighters and noone has treated him like Joe did

[Markusdarkus]

45-0 And what come on fill me in tell me what i'm missing after years of watching i still think he is CRAP!!
In 45 fights these are the best he has fought.

Chris Eubank:
Who came in at short notice had to lose 11lbs in 7 days Eubanks was past his best but still gave Calzaghe a good fight one of his toughest in fact but this did show us what Calzaghe was made of.

Robin Reid:
Who in my eyes beat him alot of people thought so as well he should have at least got a rematch.

Omar Sheika:
Lets have it right this was a guy who got beat by Tony Booth for god sake.

Richie Woodhall:
A good fighter won a WBC world title at super middle but he nearly got beat by Glenn Catley many thought he did get beat.Then he got beat by Markus Beyer and lost his world title.Woodhall was a good fighter but just good not outstanding.

Charles Brewer:
This guy lost twice to Sven Ottke he had 8 losses before he got to Calzaghe and Calzaghe had some rough times in this fight and he should have KO'd Brewer in my opinion for it to be a impressive win.

Byron Mitchell:
A fairly good puncher won a world title vs Frankie Liles TKO11 but then went on in his first defence and drew with Bruno girard then lost it in his 2nd defence in a rematch vs Gerard.In his fight before Calzaghe lost vs Sven Ottke so it was a safe bet for Calzaghe to win.Calzaghe got dropped heavy but came back to KO mitchell a good win.

Jeff Lacy:
IBF Super Middleweight champ but well overrated and overhyped.He had good power but relied on it he had struggled vs Omar Sheika so more reason for Calzaghe to fight him.Since his loss to Calzaghe Lacy has still failed to impress vs Tsypko and Manfredo so proves to a certain degree he was overhyped.

Mikkel Kessler:
39-0 a good solid fighter number 2 in the world WBC/WBA world champ.A good competetive fight hat off to Calzaghe for this win.

Bernard Hopkins:
43 year old former middleweight champ ranked number 1 at light heavy i think Hopkins won as do many others .

I think calzaghe is overrated slightly i think people get caught up in the he's made 22 world title defences.yes he made 22 defences but went alot of easy routes to do it so could he beat a peak Hopkins or Jones the answer is NO!

Well said. I personally think he is the most overrated fighter in recent memory. His 4 biggest fights where against Eubanks, Lacy, Kessler, and Hopkins. Eubanks was past his prime and still nearly beat Joe. Lacy...an overrated, one dimensional fighter. Kessler...solid fighter, but FAR from being a great fighter...Joe won a competitive fight. Hopkin's...i had the 43 year old Hopkins AT THE VERY LEAST fighting to a draw. So basically the 2 best fighter he has ever faced where a past prime Eubanks and a past prime Hopkins...2 fights and performances that hardly indicate greatness. And as far as his "flashy", pitter patter punching style...that doesn't impress me either. And this has nothing to do with some American bias. Guys like Eubanks, Benn, Lewis, etc. are 10 times the fighters that Calzaghe is.

Eubank nearly beat Joe? wtf.

Next you will be telling me Eubanks didnt have 9wks to get ready for Calzaghe and was really 37 not 31.

Jesus some of you guys are the real deal.

Pretty insane.

[Markusdarkus]

45-0 And what come on fill me in tell me what i'm missing after years of watching i still think he is CRAP!!
In 45 fights these are the best he has fought.

Chris Eubank:
Who came in at short notice had to lose 11lbs in 7 days Eubanks was past his best but still gave Calzaghe a good fight one of his toughest in fact but this did show us what Calzaghe was made of.

Robin Reid:
Who in my eyes beat him alot of people thought so as well he should have at least got a rematch.

Omar Sheika:
Lets have it right this was a guy who got beat by Tony Booth for god sake.

Richie Woodhall:
A good fighter won a WBC world title at super middle but he nearly got beat by Glenn Catley many thought he did get beat.Then he got beat by Markus Beyer and lost his world title.Woodhall was a good fighter but just good not outstanding.

Charles Brewer:
This guy lost twice to Sven Ottke he had 8 losses before he got to Calzaghe and Calzaghe had some rough times in this fight and he should have KO'd Brewer in my opinion for it to be a impressive win.

Byron Mitchell:
A fairly good puncher won a world title vs Frankie Liles TKO11 but then went on in his first defence and drew with Bruno girard then lost it in his 2nd defence in a rematch vs Gerard.In his fight before Calzaghe lost vs Sven Ottke so it was a safe bet for Calzaghe to win.Calzaghe got dropped heavy but came back to KO mitchell a good win.

Jeff Lacy:
IBF Super Middleweight champ but well overrated and overhyped.He had good power but relied on it he had struggled vs Omar Sheika so more reason for Calzaghe to fight him.Since his loss to Calzaghe Lacy has still failed to impress vs Tsypko and Manfredo so proves to a certain degree he was overhyped.

Mikkel Kessler:
39-0 a good solid fighter number 2 in the world WBC/WBA world champ.A good competetive fight hat off to Calzaghe for this win.

Bernard Hopkins:
43 year old former middleweight champ ranked number 1 at light heavy i think Hopkins won as do many others .

I think calzaghe is overrated slightly i think people get caught up in the he's made 22 world title defences.yes he made 22 defences but went alot of easy routes to do it so could he beat a peak Hopkins or Jones the answer is NO!

Eubank came in at short notice? this is a myth as Eubank was already fighting on that date, Collins ducked Calzaghe so Eubanks stepped in at 11days notice.

Chris Eubank had already been in camp for 8wks before that and on his lifestory dvd states it was his "last good camp"

[amat]

You can literally break down ANY fighter's record like that. People do it all the time. Hindsight is one thing, sometimes we go a bit overboard with it. Lacy may have been overrated, Calzaghe was still the underdog in that one.

[Tysonbruno]

45-0 And what come on fill me in tell me what i'm missing after years of watching i still think he is CRAP!!
In 45 fights these are the best he has fought.

Chris Eubank:
Who came in at short notice had to lose 11lbs in 7 days Eubanks was past his best but still gave Calzaghe a good fight one of his toughest in fact but this did show us what Calzaghe was made of.

Robin Reid:
Who in my eyes beat him alot of people thought so as well he should have at least got a rematch.

Omar Sheika:
Lets have it right this was a guy who got beat by Tony Booth for god sake.

Richie Woodhall:
A good fighter won a WBC world title at super middle but he nearly got beat by Glenn Catley many thought he did get beat.Then he got beat by Markus Beyer and lost his world title.Woodhall was a good fighter but just good not outstanding.

Charles Brewer:
This guy lost twice to Sven Ottke he had 8 losses before he got to Calzaghe and Calzaghe had some rough times in this fight and he should have KO'd Brewer in my opinion for it to be a impressive win.

Byron Mitchell:
A fairly good puncher won a world title vs Frankie Liles TKO11 but then went on in his first defence and drew with Bruno girard then lost it in his 2nd defence in a rematch vs Gerard.In his fight before Calzaghe lost vs Sven Ottke so it was a safe bet for Calzaghe to win.Calzaghe got dropped heavy but came back to KO mitchell a good win.

Jeff Lacy:
IBF Super Middleweight champ but well overrated and overhyped.He had good power but relied on it he had struggled vs Omar Sheika so more reason for Calzaghe to fight him.Since his loss to Calzaghe Lacy has still failed to impress vs Tsypko and Manfredo so proves to a certain degree he was overhyped.

Mikkel Kessler:
39-0 a good solid fighter number 2 in the world WBC/WBA world champ.A good competetive fight hat off to Calzaghe for this win.

Bernard Hopkins:
43 year old former middleweight champ ranked number 1 at light heavy i think Hopkins won as do many others .

I think calzaghe is overrated slightly i think people get caught up in the he's made 22 world title defences.yes he made 22 defences but went alot of easy routes to do it so could he beat a peak Hopkins or Jones the answer is NO!

Eubank came in at short notice? this is a myth as Eubank was already fighting on that date, Collins ducked Calzaghe so Eubanks stepped in at 11days notice.

Chris Eubank had already been in camp for 8wks before that and on his lifestory dvd states it was his "last good camp"

Yes he was set to fight Mark Prince at Light heavy i know this but rather than losing 4lbs to 175lbs he had to lose 11lbs to 168lbs the fact Eubank went upto Cruiser after shows he had weight problems.