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    Default Re: WNF Thread Lacy vs. Mendoza

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
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    I wonder if Taylor-Lacy still happens? Don't know who I would like to see Lacy fight at this moment to tell the truth. I hope he's not to stubborn and knows what to improve on. If he is going to continue on, resurrect the jab, and maybe move to 175? He hasn't fought at a brisk, consistent pace in a long time and you saw he had bursts of great speed even right up to the end but also a lot of lulling along, maybe it's time to let the ship sail on 168? He's a huge muscle bound guy, he got hurt tonight like he's never been hurt in his career, even by a jab on one occasion. You have to wonder how much is that due to weight.
    amat as I started to read your comment I had to stop when I came across "I hope he's not stubborn and knows what to improve on"

    I'm sorry man I know you a fan but at this point amat I don't think there's anything he can do to improve and I really mean that. I know your probably gonna get all analitical here but wasn't he suppose be new and improved since the Tsypko II fight?
    He looks good for a round or two but never the whole way through.
    I just feel that at this point he is who he is and he fights just the same (minor changes here and there but you still see the same plan. Which is landing the big bomb) way he fought yrs. back prior to the Joe fight.

    Lacy vs. Miranda sounds and looks very interesting to me..
    Lacy vs. Andrade
    Lacy vs. Green
    Lacy vs. Bika

    You don't think he can sure up the defense? Or bring a jab back? He has used the cage type defense before but now he tries to lean away from punches and slip them instead of just blocking them coming forward. Check out the Pemberton fight and look how he blocked punches. There are a ton of things he can improve on, things he's had in the past. Like I said at the beginning of this thread, I was nervous about this because I'm not delusional and I know that Lacy is fighting past his best right now. Usually fighters get progressively better technically overtime but there body just fails them. Well Lacy is fighting like he is fighting Syd Vanderpool again thinking his raw power is going to win over instead of fighting like he did Reid where he used his jab to cover ground or like Pemberton where he tried to block punches up top.

    There's no reason why he couldn't do those things anymore it just takes not being so stubborn.
    Whether it's stubborness or he just can't do it.
    I just feel he wont he might want to but his body and mind steer him another way. He's tried before and as I said he starts off good but just falls back into the same fight.
    I just don't think he can do it, he's got too much fight in him to try and change it now.

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    Default Re: WNF Thread Lacy vs. Mendoza

    I think he can do it. Surely it would be easier to block punches then it would to try to slip them especially when you have arms as big as his. He's implemented it sucessfully in the past I think it's just the fact that he's stubborn and he is. I'll tell you one thing he better realize he just got a MD against Epifanio Mendoza and Jermain Taylor is about 4 steps above that. I don't know how I came up with 4, random number but I think it drives the point across.

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    Default Re: WNF Thread Lacy vs. Mendoza

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    I think he can do it. Surely it would be easier to block punches then it would to try to slip them especially when you have arms as big as his. He's implemented it sucessfully in the past I think it's just the fact that he's stubborn and he is. I'll tell you one thing he better realize he just got a MD against Epifanio Mendoza and Jermain Taylor is about 4 steps above that. I don't know how I came up with 4, random number but I think it drives the point across.
    point taken...

    Don't worry I understood perfectly the meaning behind the 4 steps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    amat as I started to read your comment I had to stop when I came across "I hope he's not stubborn and knows what to improve on"

    I'm sorry man I know you a fan but at this point amat I don't think there's anything he can do to improve and I really mean that. I know your probably gonna get all analitical here but wasn't he suppose be new and improved since the Tsypko II fight?
    He looks good for a round or two but never the whole way through.
    I just feel that at this point he is who he is and he fights just the same (minor changes here and there but you still see the same plan. Which is landing the big bomb) way he fought yrs. back prior to the Joe fight.

    Lacy vs. Miranda sounds and looks very interesting to me..
    Lacy vs. Andrade
    Lacy vs. Green
    Lacy vs. Bika

    You don't think he can sure up the defense? Or bring a jab back? He has used the cage type defense before but now he tries to lean away from punches and slip them instead of just blocking them coming forward. Check out the Pemberton fight and look how he blocked punches. There are a ton of things he can improve on, things he's had in the past. Like I said at the beginning of this thread, I was nervous about this because I'm not delusional and I know that Lacy is fighting past his best right now. Usually fighters get progressively better technically overtime but there body just fails them. Well Lacy is fighting like he is fighting Syd Vanderpool again thinking his raw power is going to win over instead of fighting like he did Reid where he used his jab to cover ground or like Pemberton where he tried to block punches up top.

    There's no reason why he couldn't do those things anymore it just takes not being so stubborn.
    Whether it's stubborness or he just can't do it.
    I just feel he wont he might want to but his body and mind steer him another way. He's tried before and as I said he starts off good but just falls back into the same fight.
    I just don't think he can do it, he's got too much fight in him to try and change it now.
    I'm sure he is working on a lot of stuff in training, but when you get cracked you go back to what you've always done.

    The come forward guys you listed will make for entertaining fights with Lacy, which is about the best we can probably hope for.

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