Did the Calzaghe fight ruin Jeff Lacy?

[ssss]

Yes it did but he always did have major flaws which could be taken advantage of it has to be said the he was lucky that his 3 best wins were past there prime Syd Vanderpool Robin Reid Omar Sheika none of these fighters even at that best would i consider world class. Most of the time come forward fighters like Lacy have no defence and are 1 dimensional normally they do get found out unless the punchers are special like George Foreman Joe Louis amongst many other greats.

When you look at the so-called pro picks its about 20-1 in favour of Lacy. But to be honest 99% of those guys were American and American sports writers as a whole are not objective, hear "British" and think bum and see a power puncher and its love at first sight.

Ive never seen so many writers and casters not only wrong but completely and utterly wrong.

That is quite shocking and just furthers the point that big punchers get very overrated i mean say two years ago Kelly Pavlik vs Joe Calzaghe wouldn't have been even talked about and now everyone wants to see it and are accusing Calzaghe of ducking. There will always be a new young puncher coming up through the ranks that they will want Joe Calzaghe to face or any champion for that matter i believe that if Floyd Mayweather defeats the winner of Miguel Cotto vs Antonio Margarito i bet you the fans will want Mayweather to fight Andre Berto in a few years and accuse him of ducking Berto if he chooses not to fight him.

[leftylee]

Lacy has always been shit and overhyped.

[Hulk]

Lacy has always been shit and overhyped.

To quote Mike Tyson : "...you probably shouldn't talk any more."

[El Kabong]

I say no because I think much like David Reid or Domonick Guinn that a long amateur career damaged Lacy more than anything. Had Lacy gone pro earlier he may have suffered a few more losses but his pro career would be longer and I still think he'd lose to Calzaghe.


Lacy's style is limited and he wasn't developed properly as a fighter. Bad management and bad training

[Lance Uppercut]

I think he was ruined by that horrible shoulder injury in his next fight after Joe Cal

[Markusdarkus]

Remember the build up it was hard to find anyone picking Calzaghe, Jeff was a wrecking ball. After Calzaghe everyone said i knew a good boxer would beat him he was always a limited bum.

Trying to discredit my Joe, i wont have it ya hear

[BIG H]

Remember the build up it was hard to find anyone picking Calzaghe, Jeff was a wrecking ball. After Calzaghe everyone said i knew a good boxer would beat him he was always a limited bum.

Trying to discredit my Joe, i wont have it ya hear

Very few people on here had Calzaghe down to beat Lacy, funnily enough they all 'knew' how crap Lacy was after that fight and always 'knew' he was limited and a rookie. Didn't hear much of that before the fight

[Markusdarkus]

Remember the build up it was hard to find anyone picking Calzaghe, Jeff was a wrecking ball. After Calzaghe everyone said i knew a good boxer would beat him he was always a limited bum.

Trying to discredit my Joe, i wont have it ya hear

Very few people on here had Calzaghe down to beat Lacy, funnily enough they all 'knew' how crap Lacy was after that fight and always 'knew' he was limited and a rookie. Didn't hear much of that before the fight

Ive been through a few threads in 2005/6 and people posting in this thread right here had Lacy down as a demigod and had him obliterating Calzaghe.

I wont bump but yes before the fight everyone had Lacy after the fight hes a bum.

I will add up until Calzaghe, Lacy was a real good exciting fighter with power that made Pavlik look feather fisted.

[RP33]

Remember the build up it was hard to find anyone picking Calzaghe, Jeff was a wrecking ball. After Calzaghe everyone said i knew a good boxer would beat him he was always a limited bum.

Trying to discredit my Joe, i wont have it ya hear

Very few people on here had Calzaghe down to beat Lacy, funnily enough they all 'knew' how crap Lacy was after that fight and always 'knew' he was limited and a rookie. Didn't hear much of that before the fight

Ive been through a few threads in 2005/6 and people posting in this thread right here had Lacy down as a demigod and had him obliterating Calzaghe.

I wont bump but yes before the fight everyone had Lacy after the fight hes a bum.

I will add up until Calzaghe, Lacy was a real good exciting fighter with power that made Pavlik look feather fisted.

This is not the point though.. who cares who had who before the fight.. the question is did the Calzaghe fight ruin Lacy..

i think it's always a rude awakening when a confident undefeated fighter finally loses.. You will always know that you actually CAN lose now.. but Lacy has a lot of heart and will avoid no one, so that has to say something aobut his mental state..

i think that the shoulder injury ruined him more than Calzaghe did.. but as far as the question if Calzaghe ruined Lacy, i'd say yes and no.. more importantly he was EXPOSED.. He's still a big puncher who can take a lot of punishment, and that's what he was before also, people just are'nt as intimidated by him becuase they see what happened to him and gain confidence..

if i was fighting someone who looked like Lacy, and knew he was undefeated i'd already be quite intimidated.. but if i knew that some skinny white guy SLAPPED the hell out of him and beat him to a pulp, then i'd have QUITE a bit more confidence going into the fight..

[killersheep]

I voted no. Lacy had one great performance against Reid where he used more than just power and showed something special. It was a performance that I liken to Buster Douglas vs. Mike Tyson. To be a great boxer you need more than one big win. Reid was very old by the time Lacy fought him as well.

[donnydarkoIRL]

I voted no. Lacy had one great performance against Reid where he used more than just power and showed something special. It was a performance that I liken to Buster Douglas vs. Mike Tyson. To be a great boxer you need more than one big win. Reid was very old by the time Lacy fought him as well.

There was something special about Lacy though.
He was an Olympian, no mtter who you are thats a huge achievement.
He did scythe through each opponent in his early career, regardless of quality.

I just feel up until Round 1 of the Calzaghe fight he looked like a young man with tremendous faith in his own physical ability. A fighter can develop the skills from there.

But the Calzaghe defeat was so devastating he has the mentality of a first timer each time he enters the ring now.

[killersheep]

I voted no. Lacy had one great performance against Reid where he used more than just power and showed something special. It was a performance that I liken to Buster Douglas vs. Mike Tyson. To be a great boxer you need more than one big win. Reid was very old by the time Lacy fought him as well.

There was something special about Lacy though.
He was an Olympian, no mtter who you are thats a huge achievement.
He did scythe through each opponent in his early career, regardless of quality.

I just feel up until Round 1 of the Calzaghe fight he looked like a young man with tremendous faith in his own physical ability. A fighter can develop the skills from there.

But the Calzaghe defeat was so devastating he has the mentality of a first timer each time he enters the ring now.

Duck to the right, weave left then left hook. One-trick pony. It's easy to get carried away when someone has power. And I am happy about his amateur career, being an olympian is an amazing feat, but like I said aside from the Reid fight I guess I just never saw anything special about him.