Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Cotto vs Margarito!

[sweet science]

is that a south carolina flag by the american flag?

Indeed it is my good man, indeed it is.

i know the place. . . . can i ask where in SC you're from?

[RP33]

Truly...I believe that Cotto was just to short for the height/reach/power of Margarito. You have to give the man his due for taking what he has & making it work.

hmm.. See i didn't really think that Margarito used his height to his advantage.. they both had the same reach so that wasn't really an "advantage" to margarito.. it wasn't like he was keeping Cotto at the end of his jab.. Margarito did all his work on the inside and against the ropes..

The fight came down to the simple fact that Margarito is made of absolute steel, has heavy hands, and ridiculous stamina.. He simply traded with Cotto who was trying to outbox him (and did a good job at it) but eventually wore him down..

[Wacko3205]

Mullet Power What are the chances of a rematch....can you see it different? Tony just looked way to strong,Cotto has improved much and has big heart but this was a bridge too far!

Personally...I don't see a rematch ending any differently...it's teh volume & reach that wore Miguel down.

in the tale of the tape they had them both with the same reach. is that right?

Nope.

Margarito's reach is a stretch from Cotto's.

[JT Rock]

Truly...I believe that Cotto was just to short for the height/reach/power of Margarito. You have to give the man his due for taking what he has & making it work.

hmm.. See i didn't really think that Margarito used his height to his advantage.. they both had the same reach so that wasn't really an "advantage" to margarito.. it wasn't like he was keeping Cotto at the end of his jab.. Margarito did all his work on the inside and against the ropes..

The fight came down to the simple fact that Margarito is made of absolute steel, has heavy hands, and ridiculous stamina.. He simply traded with Cotto who was trying to outbox him (and did a good job at it) but eventually wore him down..

Slam dunk Bro... none of those things played a factor.. It was an inside battle and a war of attriction and Cotto wilted, nothing more nothing less

[Wacko3205]

is that a south carolina flag by the american flag?

Indeed it is my good man, indeed it is.

i know the place. . . . can i ask where in SC you're from?

A little town called Inman...it's in between the Greenville & Spartanburg area.

[JT Rock]

Personally...I don't see a rematch ending any differently...it's teh volume & reach that wore Miguel down.

in the tale of the tape they had them both with the same reach. is that right?

Nope.

Margarito's reach is a stretch from Cotto's.

I dont know Wacks unless HBO screwed the pooch they were listed about the same... matter of fact when Margarito was at a distance Cotto was beating him, when they were fighting in the phone booth Tony was punishing him...REACH HAD ABSOLUTELY 0 FACTOR IN THIS FIGHT

[amat]

does anybody know much flour goes in a good banana bread recipe

Funniest post in this thread.

[sweet science]

Indeed it is my good man, indeed it is.

i know the place. . . . can i ask where in SC you're from?

A little town called Inman...it's in between the Greenville & Spartanburg area.

best wishes, Wacko, like everybody else here, i'm glad to see you back.

[boozeboxer]

Sorry about going off after the fight on the Cotto crowd. But you all have been so overbearing for so long, you had some of it coming. Saddo wink:


I wish VD was here. Great night for boxing. Doesn't everyone wish this fight had the same hype ODLH/PBF did?

[RP33]

I dont know Wacks unless HBO screwed the pooch they were listed about the same... matter of fact when Margarito was at a distance Cotto was beating him, when they were fighting in the phone booth Tony was punishing him...REACH HAD ABSOLUTELY 0 FACTOR IN THIS FIGHT

right.. HBO had the reach's equal.. either way if margarito even had a 50 inch advantage, he did not fight a tall man's fight.. the only punishment and effective punching margarito did was on the inside.. when margarito started to open up and throw, cotto countered upstairs and margarito would have to take a step back and was still getting hit.. only when margarito would stalk cotto down to the ropes again would he start to throw..

[Wacko3205]

Truly...I believe that Cotto was just to short for the height/reach/power of Margarito. You have to give the man his due for taking what he has & making it work.

hmm.. See i didn't really think that Margarito used his height to his advantage.. they both had the same reach so that wasn't really an "advantage" to margarito.. it wasn't like he was keeping Cotto at the end of his jab.. Margarito did all his work on the inside and against the ropes..

The fight came down to the simple fact that Margarito is made of absolute steel, has heavy hands, and ridiculous stamina.. He simply traded with Cotto who was trying to outbox him (and did a good job at it) but eventually wore him down..

Slam dunk Bro... none of those things played a factor.. It was an inside battle and a war of attriction and Cotto wilted, nothing more nothing less

Cotto coming in at 5’ 7” with a 67” reach & dipping & diving while Margarito towered over him at 5’ 11” pushing in shots from a 73” maximum is an advantage.

4” makes a difference when you fight tall & your opponent constantly ducks & dives constantly & eats punches from 6” away…I hate it fellars…but Cotto’s face argues against the fact that 4” to 6” is a slam dunk…specially when the math don’t add up.

[Youngblood]

I watched this fight, with a mix of boxing fans and others...and every time Cotto hit Margarito, when you saw the slow motion replay, that mullet swayed and twisted and flowed lika wheatfield on an breezy summers day...but yet, forward he came.

Forward he came, and again, bash, smash. bamm...and I'd watch the mexican mullet again dance with each shot that faced it's earthly reaches, and how sometimes from beneath the sinister strangeness of that black waving mullet glory, came a smile. This concerned me.

How can he take those punches? So seemingly unfazed? As forward and forward he came. I did the math, I knew my man Cotto was ahead going into the latter rounds, but still...how, why?

And then I knew...there were 2 rounds separating the difference between who won this angry dance of men bent on inflicting damage against the other. And so I watched in disbelief, in disarray...and in shock. For my man, Miguel Cotto took a knee, not once because he needed the time to amount a comeback, but twice...because he was a beaten man.

My hats off to Tony Margarito. You sir, are a warrior of the highest order.

You deserve the full respect of the boxing world for what you did tonight.

[halo]

Props to Wacko! Man you called it like you had a crystal ball. Right on the money on your analysis weeks back. How do you do it man?

Congrats Tony! Relentless. Hope Cotto comes back. He should go back to 140lbs. He gave everything and look at Margarito. I feel he could go on for another 12. Just a slight welt, that's it.

Now this is what boxing is all about. Pure exitement leading to the fight. Both men toe to toe!

What a great night for boxing!

[Unknowndonor]

sorry for Cotto, but Floyd still beats Tony like he did Baldomir, no questions. Cotto thought he was mas macho, but Floyd would never make that mistake, and would win quite comfortably.

[TitoFan]

I haven't read any of the posts on the fight... and I don't want to. My voice is hoarse... I'm worn out... my alcohol-induced buzz went away with the finality of the Cotto loss... what can I say?

I'm proud of Cotto, win or lose. He gave away too much height... and Margarito has a scary-ass chin. How do you hurt this guy?!?!?

Immediate thoughts after the fight... forget any thoughts of a rematch. Cotto fought the best he could. He gave it his all. But Margo is a monster welterweight. It just wasn't meant to be. Congrats to all the Margarito fans. The guy is completely deserving of the praise he gets.