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    Default Re: Margarito = How NOT to learn how to box

    Can't really say Cotto was taking Tony to school if his punches were pretty much mosquitoe bites that kept Tony walking forward without even bending the kneww a little. I can imagine Cotto started to shit his pants when he saw that the fists that were made of stone against other guys were fists made of pillows against Tony.

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    Default Re: Margarito = How NOT to learn how to box

    It would be foolish to deny that Tony's chin has helped get him where he is, but it would be just as foolish to say that that's the ONLY thing he's got. If he only had a chin and nothing else, he wouldn't have knocked Cotto out. Or Cintron, or any of his other victims for that matter. If he had no skills whatsoever, he would have merely lasted the full 12 rounds but still lost. Clearly, the fact that he wins most of his fights, many by KO, shows that he has some skill. Of course I would agree that his style is not for everyone, but he does the best he can with what he's got, and he's done quite well if you ask me.
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    Default Re: Margarito = How NOT to learn how to box

    Quote Originally Posted by CottoWillBeBack View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    Can't really say Cotto was taking Tony to school if his punches were pretty much mosquitoe bites that kept Tony walking forward without even bending the kneww a little. I can imagine Cotto started to shit his pants when he saw that the fists that were made of stone against other guys were fists made of pillows against Tony.
    No, more like Tony is a slow mule with a chin. Cotto hits cleaner and harder than Tony. Don't forget, prior to the breathing issues, Cotto too was taking Tony's bombs to the chin with and reacted well. Marg by far has the BETTER CHIN.

    Two things we learned.

    1)Cotto is not the low blow when in trouble type. I always said this was BS if you watch the Cotto VS Corley and Torres fight.

    2) Cotto's chin is sturdy when he is not draining his body. I saw this already in the Judah fight when Cotto acknowledged a nice Judah punch.. Difference between being on shaky legs and simply recognizing you got hit by a nice shot and wanting to protect yourself.

    I will say yet again. Tony was a bum in the fight except for his chin and the fact that Cotto ALLOWED him to come forward the whole night. A nice JAB and laterl movement would have nullified that donkey drunken donkey style of Margarito's. I guarantee you.. Cotto will be punching walls for months when he sees how he allowed the fight to go.
    How dare you call any boxer a bum i do not think you belong anywhere near a boxing forum with sh+t like that those 2 were warriers in there and if it were not for them we would not be here talking about the greatest sport around today!!!!!!! Your man got beat get over it but stop the trash talk

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    Default Re: Margarito = How NOT to learn how to box

    Quote Originally Posted by CottoWillBeBack View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    Can't really say Cotto was taking Tony to school if his punches were pretty much mosquitoe bites that kept Tony walking forward without even bending the kneww a little. I can imagine Cotto started to shit his pants when he saw that the fists that were made of stone against other guys were fists made of pillows against Tony.
    No, more like Tony is a slow mule with a chin. Cotto hits cleaner and harder than Tony. Don't forget, prior to the breathing issues, Cotto too was taking Tony's bombs to the chin with and reacted well. Marg by far has the BETTER CHIN.

    Two things we learned.

    1)Cotto is not the low blow when in trouble type. I always said this was BS if you watch the Cotto VS Corley and Torres fight.

    2) Cotto's chin is sturdy when he is not draining his body. I saw this already in the Judah fight when Cotto acknowledged a nice Judah punch.. Difference between being on shaky legs and simply recognizing you got hit by a nice shot and wanting to protect yourself.

    I will say yet again. Tony was a bum in the fight except for his chin and the fact that Cotto ALLOWED him to come forward the whole night. A nice JAB and laterl movement would have nullified that donkey drunken donkey style of Margarito's. I guarantee you.. Cotto will be punching walls for months when he sees how he allowed the fight to go.

    Cotto himself has admitted that he hit Judah low, stating that "he will do anything to win a fight" So you are wrong about your boy.

    And again please go put a shirt on, the contrast between your pale ass and your dark shades is messing with my cornea's
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    Default Re: Margarito = How NOT to learn how to box

    Quote Originally Posted by OnixAA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CottoWillBeBack View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    Can't really say Cotto was taking Tony to school if his punches were pretty much mosquitoe bites that kept Tony walking forward without even bending the kneww a little. I can imagine Cotto started to shit his pants when he saw that the fists that were made of stone against other guys were fists made of pillows against Tony.
    No, more like Tony is a slow mule with a chin. Cotto hits cleaner and harder than Tony. Don't forget, prior to the breathing issues, Cotto too was taking Tony's bombs to the chin with and reacted well. Marg by far has the BETTER CHIN.

    Two things we learned.

    1)Cotto is not the low blow when in trouble type. I always said this was BS if you watch the Cotto VS Corley and Torres fight.

    2) Cotto's chin is sturdy when he is not draining his body. I saw this already in the Judah fight when Cotto acknowledged a nice Judah punch.. Difference between being on shaky legs and simply recognizing you got hit by a nice shot and wanting to protect yourself.

    I will say yet again. Tony was a bum in the fight except for his chin and the fact that Cotto ALLOWED him to come forward the whole night. A nice JAB and laterl movement would have nullified that donkey drunken donkey style of Margarito's. I guarantee you.. Cotto will be punching walls for months when he sees how he allowed the fight to go.

    Cotto himself has admitted that he hit Judah low, stating that "he will do anything to win a fight" So you are wrong about your boy.

    And again please go put a shirt on, the contrast between your pale ass and your dark shades is messing with my cornea's

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    Default Re: Margarito = How NOT to learn how to box

    No, more like Tony is a slow mule with a chin
    Sure, a slow mule that packs a punch like a mule's kick.
    Cotto hits cleaner and harder than Tony
    Don't you think it’s the other way around? Tony was not the guy that was saved by his corner and had an unrecognizable bloody face after the stoppage.
    Don't forget, prior to the breathing issues, Cotto too was taking Tony's bombs to the chin with and reacted well
    It was barely round 2 when Cotto got that uppercut that sent him to sit on the ropes and start breathing from his mouth from round 2 and on. Some punches pay their toll as they accumulate. We've seen Chavez, Mayweather, etc. Do that.
    Interesting how people said that Cotto would work on Tony's body and make him quit. It was the other way around and it was seen as early as round 2. As for the breathing issues, guess what caused it.
    Cotto's chin is sturdy when he is not draining his body. I saw this already in the Judah fight when Cotto acknowledged a nice Judah punch.. Difference between being on shaky legs and simply recognizing you got hit by a nice shot and wanting to protect yourself.
    Cotto recognized Tony's power and solid chin that made him back pedal from one corner to the other and get on a bycicle. I was surprised to see that.
    Tony was a bum in the fight
    If so then how bad do you think it sounds to know that your fighter got PUNISHED by a bum.
    except for his chin and the fact that Cotto ALLOWED him to come forward the whole night
    Nope, Tony's chin and punches ALLOWED him to keep coming forward and giving Cotto a beating. Are you saying that Cotto was just being nice and "allowed" Tony to take him like that?
    A nice JAB and laterl movement would have nullified that donkey drunken donkey style of Margarito's
    If...would...if...would...if...
    Imagine if the fight went to the scorecards. We would hear more crying from die-hard Cotto fans about how he got robbed but the fight was STOPPED, Cotto was SAVED by his corner, Cotto's face showed CLEARLY what happened in that fight, etc. COTTO LOST BY TKO! No doubts, no questions, no nonsense.
    Last edited by Chino; 07-28-2008 at 10:14 PM.

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    It scares me to think of how Margarito will turn out after his career is over. Just because he is not getting concussed does not mean he is not getting some bruising and small short circuits of the brain with his head being bounced all over the place like that.

    It will add up on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanrw View Post
    It scares me to think of how Margarito will turn out after his career is over. Just because he is not getting concussed does not mean he is not getting some bruising and small short circuits of the brain with his head being bounced all over the place like that.

    It will add up on him.
    I posted something earlier pertaining to this. I would like to see Tony fight a couple of more times and call it quits. Guys going to be sitting in a rocking chair sipping apple juice through a straw when he's 50. Great chin, no doubt, but brains are complex things and getting jiggled around like pudding isn't a good thing, especially to the extent his does. I'd love to see x-rays of his skull; must be 10 inches thick
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    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Deanrw View Post
    It scares me to think of how Margarito will turn out after his career is over. Just because he is not getting concussed does not mean he is not getting some bruising and small short circuits of the brain with his head being bounced all over the place like that.

    It will add up on him.
    I posted something earlier pertaining to this. I would like to see Tony fight a couple of more times and call it quits. Guys going to be sitting in a rocking chair sipping apple juice through a straw when he's 50. Great chin, no doubt, but brains are complex things and getting jiggled around like pudding isn't a good thing, especially to the extent his does. I'd love to see x-rays of his skull; must be 10 inches thick

    I would rather be Tony after 50 fights than a person fighting Tony after 50 fights.
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    Default Re: Margarito = How NOT to learn how to box

    Quote Originally Posted by Deanrw View Post
    It scares me to think of how Margarito will turn out after his career is over. Just because he is not getting concussed does not mean he is not getting some bruising and small short circuits of the brain with his head being bounced all over the place like that.

    It will add up on him.
    That has to be a concern

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    Default Re: Margarito = How NOT to learn how to box

    Look at the beatings george chuvalo took and he came away with all his faculties. It all depends on what genes you have.

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    Default Re: Margarito = How NOT to learn how to box

    People are forgetting the good work Tony did in the first half of the fight. He got tagged to get his body shots off and clearly hurt Cotto as early as the 2nd.

    Are people really suggesting that Cotto just randomly fell to bits from about 6 or 7? has anyone seen Cotto that tired he was virtually spent by rd 10 that was because of the work done early in the fight.

    I never once see this schooling people blabber about i see early that Cotto could not take the pressure and that Marg took his shots a hell of a lot better than Cottos tokk his.

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