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    Default Re: Margarito = How NOT to learn how to box

    Nothing like revisionist history and living in denial.Yawn Sanchez..."Not even 40 jabs the entire fight by Margarito"....He threw 30 in the 1st round.The way he tucked his arms into his sides negating alot of Cottos body work is also discarded ?Sometimes when you can throw a very high volume of power shots with so many angels .....constantly and big time hurt on people,your not exactly thinking about backing up.Contrary to some,Tony can throw a diverse group of shots,over & under.If It ain't broke,don't try to fix it.Look,Margarito does not pretend to be what he is not.He is not a polished technical boxer,he is not fleet of foot or a ring finesse master & he is not adverse to catching his opponents best shots on the chin and then smiling at them!Nor is he some pretentious loud mouth that leads with his tounge and then follows with his fist's.He is one that maximizes his strengh's and forces some good fighters to realize there own weaknesses. Chins can be over rated.Do not disregard what sits in a mans chest and the steeliness of mind.Oh yeh.....btw He just broke down,battered stopped one of the top skilled and respected fighters in the world today,solidly and without question.

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    Default Re: Margarito = How NOT to learn how to box

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Nothing like revisionist history and living in denial.Yawn Sanchez..."Not even 40 jabs the entire fight by Margarito"....He threw 30 in the 1st round.The way he tucked his arms into his sides negating alot of Cottos body work is also discarded ?Sometimes when you can throw a very high volume of power shots with so many angels .....constantly and big time hurt on people,your not exactly thinking about backing up.Contrary to some,Tony can throw a diverse group of shots,over & under.If It ain't broke,don't try to fix it.Look,Margarito does not pretend to be what he is not.He is not a polished technical boxer,he is not fleet of foot or a ring finesse master & he is not adverse to catching his opponents best shots on the chin and then smiling at them!Nor is he some pretentious loud mouth that leads with his tounge and then follows with his fist's.He is one that maximizes his strengh's and forces some good fighters to realize there own weaknesses. Chins can be over rated.Do not disregard what sits in a mans chest and the steeliness of mind.Oh yeh.....btw He just broke down,battered stopped one of the top skilled and respected fighters in the world today,solidly and without question.
    Compubox Results:
    HBO: Boxing: PPV: Cotto vs. Margarito: COMPUBOX POST- FIGHT ANALYSIS

    I misread but regardless...340 jabs thrown, 30 landed for a connect percentage of a BRILLIANT 9%. Talk about an outstanding pugilist...YAWN.

    My point of this thread was to merely outline that Margarito's style will ONLY work for Margarito which is taking SHOT after SHOT of power punches CLEAN to the head and not budge. He is not a boxer that ANYONE should try emulate.

    Did he break down Cotto? Sure he did. Cotto fought the best I've ever seen him fight. He was at the TOP of his game and connecting beautifully. Any other boxer would surely have been rocked at the very least and/or hit the canvas. It was ONLY Margarito's chin that kept him in the fight and allowed him to capitalize. Had Margarito had the chin of a normal human being and used the same strategy during this fight, he would have been KO'd in 6 hands down. NO ONE would argue that.

    It may sound like I'm taking the gusto out of Marg's big win. Hardly...I'm just stating the fact that Margarito's boxing style of getting hit CLEAN with POWER SHOTS 4-5 times in a row before landing his own is by far, the DUMBEST strategy known to man but works well for him simply because he has a chin made of an unknown, alien type substance.

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    Default Re: Margarito = How NOT to learn how to box

    Quote Originally Posted by sanchez786 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Nothing like revisionist history and living in denial.Yawn Sanchez..."Not even 40 jabs the entire fight by Margarito"....He threw 30 in the 1st round.The way he tucked his arms into his sides negating alot of Cottos body work is also discarded ?Sometimes when you can throw a very high volume of power shots with so many angels .....constantly and big time hurt on people,your not exactly thinking about backing up.Contrary to some,Tony can throw a diverse group of shots,over & under.If It ain't broke,don't try to fix it.Look,Margarito does not pretend to be what he is not.He is not a polished technical boxer,he is not fleet of foot or a ring finesse master & he is not adverse to catching his opponents best shots on the chin and then smiling at them!Nor is he some pretentious loud mouth that leads with his tounge and then follows with his fist's.He is one that maximizes his strengh's and forces some good fighters to realize there own weaknesses. Chins can be over rated.Do not disregard what sits in a mans chest and the steeliness of mind.Oh yeh.....btw He just broke down,battered stopped one of the top skilled and respected fighters in the world today,solidly and without question.
    Compubox Results:
    HBO: Boxing: PPV: Cotto vs. Margarito: COMPUBOX POST- FIGHT ANALYSIS

    I misread but regardless...340 jabs thrown, 30 landed for a connect percentage of a BRILLIANT 9%. Talk about an outstanding pugilist...YAWN.

    My point of this thread was to merely outline that Margarito's style will ONLY work for Margarito which is taking SHOT after SHOT of power punches CLEAN to the head and not budge. He is not a boxer that ANYONE should try emulate.

    Did he break down Cotto? Sure he did. Cotto fought the best I've ever seen him fight. He was at the TOP of his game and connecting beautifully. Any other boxer would surely have been rocked at the very least and/or hit the canvas. It was ONLY Margarito's chin that kept him in the fight and allowed him to capitalize. Had Margarito had the chin of a normal human being and used the same strategy during this fight, he would have been KO'd in 6 hands down. NO ONE would argue that.

    It may sound like I'm taking the gusto out of Marg's big win. Hardly...I'm just stating the fact that Margarito's boxing style of getting hit CLEAN with POWER SHOTS 4-5 times in a row before landing his own is by far, the DUMBEST strategy known to man but works well for him simply because he has a chin made of an unknown, alien type substance.
    You are tripping over your own tounge.If's.....maybe's......might's.....could haves?......So what!Ok,Margarito has an outstanding chin but to suggest that is his a one trick pony and without skill is just slow.......I recall him throwing some pretty sturdy left uppers and rights ,but never his Chin? His chin is made of an "Alien" product.

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    Default Re: Margarito = How NOT to learn how to box

    Being the most in shape human around doesn't hurt either.
    "If there's a better chin in the world than Pryor's, it has to be on Mount Rushmore." -Pat Putnam.

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    Default Re: Margarito = How NOT to learn how to box

    Nawlins:...Calm down bud...I never said Margarito has no skill. He obviously knows how to throw a punch but skill wise in terms of actual boxing? He's pretty far down the todem pole in that regard. His defence is his face and it works for him! Hit me 5 times so I can hit you once...Again, that strategy works for him strictly because of his chin. Anyhow, we're beating a dead horse. Congrats to Margarito once again for beating the best Cotto i've ever seen. Let's hope we can see it again sometime next year!

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    Default Re: Margarito = How NOT to learn how to box

    Quote Originally Posted by sanchez786 View Post
    Nawlins:...Calm down bud...I never said Margarito has no skill. He obviously knows how to throw a punch but skill wise in terms of actual boxing? He's pretty far down the todem pole in that regard. His defence is his face and it works for him! Hit me 5 times so I can hit you once...Again, that strategy works for him strictly because of his chin. Anyhow, we're beating a dead horse. Congrats to Margarito once again for beating the best Cotto i've ever seen. Let's hope we can see it again sometime next year!
    I do believe you are underselling many abit here.....Including your Man,Cotto.To suggest that Tony won souly on his chin is like someone saying Margarito won because Cotto had no punch? Ugh...Last I checked Throwing a proper punch was a component in actual boxing?A chin is more than physical.Not like Tony has never been hurt in a fight ya know I just dont know about a rematch,That will be uphill battle for solid Cotto.

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    Default Re: Margarito = How NOT to learn how to box

    I'm a huge Cotto fan, but I give Tony more credit than just his chin. His conditioning, heart, power and persistance won him that fight. I am very impressed with Margarito as a fighter. He walked through Cotto. I would love to see a rematch. Don't think Cotto deserves one just yet. I only hope that Cotto can do the same thing (if he gets a rematch) a little better and for all 12 rounds.

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