Margarito = How NOT to learn how to box

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

Look at the beatings george chuvalo took and he came away with all his faculties. It all depends on what genes you have.

[LEGION]

Look at the beatings george chuvalo took and he came away with all his faculties. It all depends on what genes you have.

Good point. Look at how things ended up for Mike quarry though And Oscar Diaz is still fighting for his life from that brutal loss a couple of weeks ago. I don't know how Tony can not only take the punishment, but smile at his opponent when he's getting hit for the 1000th time

[Spicoli]

Nothing like revisionist history and living in denial.Yawn Sanchez..."Not even 40 jabs the entire fight by Margarito"....He threw 30 in the 1st round.The way he tucked his arms into his sides negating alot of Cottos body work is also discarded ?Sometimes when you can throw a very high volume of power shots with so many angels .....constantly and big time hurt on people,your not exactly thinking about backing up.Contrary to some,Tony can throw a diverse group of shots,over & under.If It ain't broke,don't try to fix it.Look,Margarito does not pretend to be what he is not.He is not a polished technical boxer,he is not fleet of foot or a ring finesse master & he is not adverse to catching his opponents best shots on the chin and then smiling at them!Nor is he some pretentious loud mouth that leads with his tounge and then follows with his fist's.He is one that maximizes his strengh's and forces some good fighters to realize there own weaknesses. Chins can be over rated.Do not disregard what sits in a mans chest and the steeliness of mind.Oh yeh.....btw He just broke down,battered stopped one of the top skilled and respected fighters in the world today,solidly and without question.

[boozeboxer]

It scares me to think of how Margarito will turn out after his career is over. Just because he is not getting concussed does not mean he is not getting some bruising and small short circuits of the brain with his head being bounced all over the place like that.

It will add up on him.

I posted something earlier pertaining to this. I would like to see Tony fight a couple of more times and call it quits. Guys going to be sitting in a rocking chair sipping apple juice through a straw when he's 50. Great chin, no doubt, but brains are complex things and getting jiggled around like pudding isn't a good thing, especially to the extent his does. I'd love to see x-rays of his skull; must be 10 inches thick

I would rather be Tony after 50 fights than a person fighting Tony after 50 fights.

[LEGION]

It scares me to think of how Margarito will turn out after his career is over. Just because he is not getting concussed does not mean he is not getting some bruising and small short circuits of the brain with his head being bounced all over the place like that.

It will add up on him.

I posted something earlier pertaining to this. I would like to see Tony fight a couple of more times and call it quits. Guys going to be sitting in a rocking chair sipping apple juice through a straw when he's 50. Great chin, no doubt, but brains are complex things and getting jiggled around like pudding isn't a good thing, especially to the extent his does. I'd love to see x-rays of his skull; must be 10 inches thick

I would rather be Tony after 50 fights than a person fighting Tony after 50 fights.

I hate those kinds of statements. It's like a tongue twister and I have to think about it for a minute. Maybe AMAT was right and I am retarded.

I'd rather be born a retard then be born and turn into a retard

[boozeboxer]

I posted something earlier pertaining to this. I would like to see Tony fight a couple of more times and call it quits. Guys going to be sitting in a rocking chair sipping apple juice through a straw when he's 50. Great chin, no doubt, but brains are complex things and getting jiggled around like pudding isn't a good thing, especially to the extent his does. I'd love to see x-rays of his skull; must be 10 inches thick

I would rather be Tony after 50 fights than a person fighting Tony after 50 fights.

I hate those kinds of statements. It's like a tongue twister and I have to think about it for a minute. Maybe AMAT was right and I am retarded.

I'd rather be born a retard then be born and turn into a retard

You make me laugh out loud, seriously. With a Deanrw, Legion, Booze post-post-post how can you lose.

[sanchez786]

Nothing like revisionist history and living in denial.Yawn Sanchez..."Not even 40 jabs the entire fight by Margarito"....He threw 30 in the 1st round.The way he tucked his arms into his sides negating alot of Cottos body work is also discarded ?Sometimes when you can throw a very high volume of power shots with so many angels .....constantly and big time hurt on people,your not exactly thinking about backing up.Contrary to some,Tony can throw a diverse group of shots,over & under.If It ain't broke,don't try to fix it.Look,Margarito does not pretend to be what he is not.He is not a polished technical boxer,he is not fleet of foot or a ring finesse master & he is not adverse to catching his opponents best shots on the chin and then smiling at them!Nor is he some pretentious loud mouth that leads with his tounge and then follows with his fist's.He is one that maximizes his strengh's and forces some good fighters to realize there own weaknesses. Chins can be over rated.Do not disregard what sits in a mans chest and the steeliness of mind.Oh yeh.....btw He just broke down,battered stopped one of the top skilled and respected fighters in the world today,solidly and without question.

Compubox Results:
HBO: Boxing: PPV: Cotto vs. Margarito: COMPUBOX POST- FIGHT ANALYSIS

I misread but regardless...340 jabs thrown, 30 landed for a connect percentage of a BRILLIANT 9%. Talk about an outstanding pugilist...YAWN.

My point of this thread was to merely outline that Margarito's style will ONLY work for Margarito which is taking SHOT after SHOT of power punches CLEAN to the head and not budge. He is not a boxer that ANYONE should try emulate.

Did he break down Cotto? Sure he did. Cotto fought the best I've ever seen him fight. He was at the TOP of his game and connecting beautifully. Any other boxer would surely have been rocked at the very least and/or hit the canvas. It was ONLY Margarito's chin that kept him in the fight and allowed him to capitalize. Had Margarito had the chin of a normal human being and used the same strategy during this fight, he would have been KO'd in 6 hands down. NO ONE would argue that.

It may sound like I'm taking the gusto out of Marg's big win. Hardly...I'm just stating the fact that Margarito's boxing style of getting hit CLEAN with POWER SHOTS 4-5 times in a row before landing his own is by far, the DUMBEST strategy known to man but works well for him simply because he has a chin made of an unknown, alien type substance.

[Spicoli]

Nothing like revisionist history and living in denial.Yawn Sanchez..."Not even 40 jabs the entire fight by Margarito"....He threw 30 in the 1st round.The way he tucked his arms into his sides negating alot of Cottos body work is also discarded ?Sometimes when you can throw a very high volume of power shots with so many angels .....constantly and big time hurt on people,your not exactly thinking about backing up.Contrary to some,Tony can throw a diverse group of shots,over & under.If It ain't broke,don't try to fix it.Look,Margarito does not pretend to be what he is not.He is not a polished technical boxer,he is not fleet of foot or a ring finesse master & he is not adverse to catching his opponents best shots on the chin and then smiling at them!Nor is he some pretentious loud mouth that leads with his tounge and then follows with his fist's.He is one that maximizes his strengh's and forces some good fighters to realize there own weaknesses. Chins can be over rated.Do not disregard what sits in a mans chest and the steeliness of mind.Oh yeh.....btw He just broke down,battered stopped one of the top skilled and respected fighters in the world today,solidly and without question.

Compubox Results:
HBO: Boxing: PPV: Cotto vs. Margarito: COMPUBOX POST- FIGHT ANALYSIS

I misread but regardless...340 jabs thrown, 30 landed for a connect percentage of a BRILLIANT 9%. Talk about an outstanding pugilist...YAWN.

My point of this thread was to merely outline that Margarito's style will ONLY work for Margarito which is taking SHOT after SHOT of power punches CLEAN to the head and not budge. He is not a boxer that ANYONE should try emulate.

Did he break down Cotto? Sure he did. Cotto fought the best I've ever seen him fight. He was at the TOP of his game and connecting beautifully. Any other boxer would surely have been rocked at the very least and/or hit the canvas. It was ONLY Margarito's chin that kept him in the fight and allowed him to capitalize. Had Margarito had the chin of a normal human being and used the same strategy during this fight, he would have been KO'd in 6 hands down. NO ONE would argue that.

It may sound like I'm taking the gusto out of Marg's big win. Hardly...I'm just stating the fact that Margarito's boxing style of getting hit CLEAN with POWER SHOTS 4-5 times in a row before landing his own is by far, the DUMBEST strategy known to man but works well for him simply because he has a chin made of an unknown, alien type substance.

You are tripping over your own tounge.If's.....maybe's......might's.....could haves?......So what!Ok,Margarito has an outstanding chin but to suggest that is his a one trick pony and without skill is just slow.......I recall him throwing some pretty sturdy left uppers and rights ,but never his Chin? His chin is made of an "Alien" product.

[boozeboxer]

Being the most in shape human around doesn't hurt either.

[sanchez786]

Nawlins:...Calm down bud...I never said Margarito has no skill. He obviously knows how to throw a punch but skill wise in terms of actual boxing? He's pretty far down the todem pole in that regard. His defence is his face and it works for him! Hit me 5 times so I can hit you once...Again, that strategy works for him strictly because of his chin. Anyhow, we're beating a dead horse. Congrats to Margarito once again for beating the best Cotto i've ever seen. Let's hope we can see it again sometime next year!

[Spicoli]

Nawlins:...Calm down bud...I never said Margarito has no skill. He obviously knows how to throw a punch but skill wise in terms of actual boxing? He's pretty far down the todem pole in that regard. His defence is his face and it works for him! Hit me 5 times so I can hit you once...Again, that strategy works for him strictly because of his chin. Anyhow, we're beating a dead horse. Congrats to Margarito once again for beating the best Cotto i've ever seen. Let's hope we can see it again sometime next year!

I do believe you are underselling many abit here.....Including your Man,Cotto.To suggest that Tony won souly on his chin is like someone saying Margarito won because Cotto had no punch? Ugh...Last I checked Throwing a proper punch was a component in actual boxing?A chin is more than physical.Not like Tony has never been hurt in a fight ya know I just dont know about a rematch,That will be uphill battle for solid Cotto.

[belakbox]

I'm a huge Cotto fan, but I give Tony more credit than just his chin. His conditioning, heart, power and persistance won him that fight. I am very impressed with Margarito as a fighter. He walked through Cotto. I would love to see a rematch. Don't think Cotto deserves one just yet. I only hope that Cotto can do the same thing (if he gets a rematch) a little better and for all 12 rounds.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Technically Margarito is nothing particularly admirable.
However, as a fighter he hones his physicality to such a high level that he compensdates somewhat for his lack of finnesse.

I believe the thread almost states "No boxer should learn to fight like Antonio." But if more young fighters took the same mental approach to the sport as Antonio did it would be 700% better a spectacle.

Margarito is not to be admired because of his chin. He should be admired for his ability to maintain a huge output throughout a fight, for his willingness to fight every second of every round and his hunger for victory. He may not be flashy, decorated or have fans checking every training video trying to emulate him, but he must be admired for his pure raw unadulterated hunger and work ethic.

[Markusdarkus]

People are forgetting the good work Tony did in the first half of the fight. He got tagged to get his body shots off and clearly hurt Cotto as early as the 2nd.

Are people really suggesting that Cotto just randomly fell to bits from about 6 or 7? has anyone seen Cotto that tired he was virtually spent by rd 10 that was because of the work done early in the fight.

I never once see this schooling people blabber about i see early that Cotto could not take the pressure and that Marg took his shots a hell of a lot better than Cottos tokk his.

[Puya]

What ever you guys say it will never change the fact that during the first half Cotto was landing his bombs in combos and that Margaros Chin made all the difference. Other boxer could have never stand for such a painfull assault like that.