How do people judge fights here?

[Bomp]

I don't understand how people score fights on this forum. A round is judged on defense, ring generalship, aggression, and as Ledderman says first and FOREMOST clean effective punching.
ring generalship: who fights the fight they want to
defense: who has better defensive skills
aggression: who is initiating or coming forward

Now in the Margarito-Cotto fight for example
in rounds 1,2,3,4,5,6,9
Cotto clearly won these categories defense, CLEAN EFFECTIVE PUNCHING
while Margarito clearly won the aggression and ring generalship part of every round.

That being said did anyone have Cotto not winning rounds 1,2,3,4,5,6,9? I think people put an over emphasis on ring generalship and agression which are not the most important criteria when it comes to a fighter winning a fight.

clean EFFECTIVE punching. No doubt Cotto was landing the cleaner punches in these rounds, but in round 2 and 6 Margarito was landing with more EFFECT IMO.

[HOMETOWN CHAMP]

I go by clean effective punching then aggressivness in a fight. going into the 11th i had the fight scored even but i havent rewatched it

[Von Milash]

simple. i ask myself, who would I have rather been in that round? That's who wins it.

[Lance Uppercut]

simple. i ask myself, who would I have rather been in that round? That's who wins it.

That is a Max Kellerman Quote.

[Von Milash]

simple. i ask myself, who would I have rather been in that round? That's who wins it.

That is a Max Kellerman Quote.

exactly. that's where I got that. It's simplicity and perfection. And yet the guy has never worn gloves.

[Fenster]

Do you guys actually jot the score down per round - pen and paper, like a judge?

[Taeth]

I count each round personally, but in my head, you kind of have to or you let what is happening later on affect what you are thinking earlier. For example you see Margarito effective later in the fihgt will make you feel that he had a purpose for fighting how he did earlier in the fihgt, but when the round in question was actually happening you might feel Cotto landing so cleanly clearly gave him the round.

Also Max Kellerman's way of judging rounds isn't how it should be officially done, but I do see that he is usually pretty accurate in scoring fights.

[RozzySean]

Do you guys actually jot the score down per round - pen and paper, like a judge?

Sometimes. More often if I'm home alone or with my gf watching a free event. When I'm in a crowd watching a ppv, I do it mentally and keep track as best as I can through the cheering and the beer.

[Taeth]

I don't understand how people score fights on this forum. A round is judged on defense, ring generalship, aggression, and as Ledderman says first and FOREMOST clean effective punching.
ring generalship: who fights the fight they want to
defense: who has better defensive skills
aggression: who is initiating or coming forward

Now in the Margarito-Cotto fight for example
in rounds 1,2,3,4,5,6,9
Cotto clearly won these categories defense, CLEAN EFFECTIVE PUNCHING
while Margarito clearly won the aggression and ring generalship part of every round.

That being said did anyone have Cotto not winning rounds 1,2,3,4,5,6,9? I think people put an over emphasis on ring generalship and agression which are not the most important criteria when it comes to a fighter winning a fight.

clean EFFECTIVE punching. No doubt Cotto was landing the cleaner punches in these rounds, but in round 2 and 6 Margarito was landing with more EFFECT IMO.

Cotto was snapping Marg's head back in those two rounds with his punches, I don't see how one's punches were more effective than the others

[bcollins]

I don't understand how people score fights on this forum. A round is judged on defense, ring generalship, aggression, and as Ledderman says first and FOREMOST clean effective punching.
ring generalship: who fights the fight they want to
defense: who has better defensive skills
aggression: who is initiating or coming forward

Now in the Margarito-Cotto fight for example
in rounds 1,2,3,4,5,6,9
Cotto clearly won these categories defense, CLEAN EFFECTIVE PUNCHING
while Margarito clearly won the aggression and ring generalship part of every round.

That being said did anyone have Cotto not winning rounds 1,2,3,4,5,6,9? I think people put an over emphasis on ring generalship and agression which are not the most important criteria when it comes to a fighter winning a fight.

clean EFFECTIVE punching. No doubt Cotto was landing the cleaner punches in these rounds, but in round 2 and 6 Margarito was landing with more EFFECT IMO.

Cotto was snapping Marg's head back in those two rounds with his punches, I don't see how one's punches were more effective than the others

But they still had little effect overall on Margarito. No doubt Cotto was lighting him up like a christmas tree, but he may as well have been hitting a brick wall for all the effect it was having.

So that brings up a great question, to me at least. It seems clean punching and effective punching may be two entirely different things, just taking this fight as an example. Cotto's punches were cleaner, and Margarito's were more effective, if you concede that those punches were what caused Cotto to fade toward the end.

How can you objectively score these criteria when they are not necessarily dependent?

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I don't understand how people score fights on this forum. A round is judged on defense, ring generalship, aggression, and as Ledderman says first and FOREMOST clean effective punching.
ring generalship: who fights the fight they want to
defense: who has better defensive skills
aggression: who is initiating or coming forward

Now in the Margarito-Cotto fight for example
in rounds 1,2,3,4,5,6,9
Cotto clearly won these categories defense, CLEAN EFFECTIVE PUNCHING
while Margarito clearly won the aggression and ring generalship part of every round.

That being said did anyone have Cotto not winning rounds 1,2,3,4,5,6,9? I think people put an over emphasis on ring generalship and agression which are not the most important criteria when it comes to a fighter winning a fight.

clean EFFECTIVE punching. No doubt Cotto was landing the cleaner punches in these rounds, but in round 2 and 6 Margarito was landing with more EFFECT IMO.

Cotto was snapping Marg's head back in those two rounds with his punches, I don't see how one's punches were more effective than the others

H e landed 1 maybe 2 punches in each round which snapped Tony's head back, does not make up to being pinned on the ropes doubled over by body shots IMO.

[Otley]

I basically divide around in 3 parts, the first minute the second minute and finally the 3rd minute......usually I would score the round 10-9 to whoever wins 2/3rds of that round. I would most certainly go for the boxer who is agressive and lands the harder shots

Job Biscuit (Like i did with Margarito)!!!


eh eh!!

[hitmanhatton]

honestly id say the best way is to watch the round and just go with gut instinct on who got the better of it , i think looking for particular criteria too much can make you miss other things and cloud your judgement

[southakron314]

I always go be who is landing the cleaner harder shots. Then I look at work rate. Defense over swarming pointless punches. I usally like to see busy fighters. I DONT COUNT SLAPS AND ARM PUNCHES for all you Calzaghe fans.

[Plopeater]

10-9
10-8 KO in round
10-10 if draw
10-7 multi KO
10-6 if i don't like fighter
10-5 if Hatton is fighting as he poo