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    Default Re: How do people judge fights here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bomp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I don't understand how people score fights on this forum. A round is judged on defense, ring generalship, aggression, and as Ledderman says first and FOREMOST clean effective punching.
    ring generalship: who fights the fight they want to
    defense: who has better defensive skills
    aggression: who is initiating or coming forward

    Now in the Margarito-Cotto fight for example
    in rounds 1,2,3,4,5,6,9
    Cotto clearly won these categories defense, CLEAN EFFECTIVE PUNCHING
    while Margarito clearly won the aggression and ring generalship part of every round.

    That being said did anyone have Cotto not winning rounds 1,2,3,4,5,6,9? I think people put an over emphasis on ring generalship and agression which are not the most important criteria when it comes to a fighter winning a fight.

    clean EFFECTIVE punching. No doubt Cotto was landing the cleaner punches in these rounds, but in round 2 and 6 Margarito was landing with more EFFECT IMO.
    Cotto was snapping Marg's head back in those two rounds with his punches, I don't see how one's punches were more effective than the others

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    Default Re: How do people judge fights here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bomp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I don't understand how people score fights on this forum. A round is judged on defense, ring generalship, aggression, and as Ledderman says first and FOREMOST clean effective punching.
    ring generalship: who fights the fight they want to
    defense: who has better defensive skills
    aggression: who is initiating or coming forward

    Now in the Margarito-Cotto fight for example
    in rounds 1,2,3,4,5,6,9
    Cotto clearly won these categories defense, CLEAN EFFECTIVE PUNCHING
    while Margarito clearly won the aggression and ring generalship part of every round.

    That being said did anyone have Cotto not winning rounds 1,2,3,4,5,6,9? I think people put an over emphasis on ring generalship and agression which are not the most important criteria when it comes to a fighter winning a fight.

    clean EFFECTIVE punching. No doubt Cotto was landing the cleaner punches in these rounds, but in round 2 and 6 Margarito was landing with more EFFECT IMO.
    Cotto was snapping Marg's head back in those two rounds with his punches, I don't see how one's punches were more effective than the others
    But they still had little effect overall on Margarito. No doubt Cotto was lighting him up like a christmas tree, but he may as well have been hitting a brick wall for all the effect it was having.

    So that brings up a great question, to me at least. It seems clean punching and effective punching may be two entirely different things, just taking this fight as an example. Cotto's punches were cleaner, and Margarito's were more effective, if you concede that those punches were what caused Cotto to fade toward the end.

    How can you objectively score these criteria when they are not necessarily dependent?

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    Default Re: How do people judge fights here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bomp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I don't understand how people score fights on this forum. A round is judged on defense, ring generalship, aggression, and as Ledderman says first and FOREMOST clean effective punching.
    ring generalship: who fights the fight they want to
    defense: who has better defensive skills
    aggression: who is initiating or coming forward

    Now in the Margarito-Cotto fight for example
    in rounds 1,2,3,4,5,6,9
    Cotto clearly won these categories defense, CLEAN EFFECTIVE PUNCHING
    while Margarito clearly won the aggression and ring generalship part of every round.

    That being said did anyone have Cotto not winning rounds 1,2,3,4,5,6,9? I think people put an over emphasis on ring generalship and agression which are not the most important criteria when it comes to a fighter winning a fight.

    clean EFFECTIVE punching. No doubt Cotto was landing the cleaner punches in these rounds, but in round 2 and 6 Margarito was landing with more EFFECT IMO.
    Cotto was snapping Marg's head back in those two rounds with his punches, I don't see how one's punches were more effective than the others
    H e landed 1 maybe 2 punches in each round which snapped Tony's head back, does not make up to being pinned on the ropes doubled over by body shots IMO.

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    Default Re: How do people judge fights here?

    I basically divide around in 3 parts, the first minute the second minute and finally the 3rd minute......usually I would score the round 10-9 to whoever wins 2/3rds of that round. I would most certainly go for the boxer who is agressive and lands the harder shots

    Job Biscuit (Like i did with Margarito)!!!


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    Default Re: How do people judge fights here?

    honestly id say the best way is to watch the round and just go with gut instinct on who got the better of it , i think looking for particular criteria too much can make you miss other things and cloud your judgement

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    Default Re: How do people judge fights here?

    I always go be who is landing the cleaner harder shots. Then I look at work rate. Defense over swarming pointless punches. I usally like to see busy fighters. I DONT COUNT SLAPS AND ARM PUNCHES for all you Calzaghe fans.

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    Default Re: How do people judge fights here?

    10-9
    10-8 KO in round
    10-10 if draw
    10-7 multi KO
    10-6 if i don't like fighter
    10-5 if Hatton is fighting as he poo

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