How does Berto-Cotto go?

[CountryBoy]

Berto gets smashed

[ArawakWarria]

I was just having this discussion with a friend, and we came to see that Berto showed his greatest improvement in movement, defense and power in his last fight. But in another sense, that only now makes him a true CONTENDER, so we have ordained him a Contender with a Belt. No hating, no qualms; it happens with many limelight/olympic boxers (vargas, juan diaz, etc.). But now is when we get to see what type of boxer he will become. Please remember that David Estrada was once pushed as much as Berto, and now he is a really tough trial horse.

Here are the people I think will help him progress in his career & grow as a fighter.

Luis Collazo
Zab Judah
Alfonso Gomez
Carlos Quintana

Out of these, I would say Collazo is his biggest challenge (depending on which Collazo showed up)

And big props to the comment about using him as a great comeback fight!

[Spicoli]

Berto has not fought anyone or anything to even come close in preparing him for the likes of Cotto & company.

Very good Improvement,great handspeed and TV friendly but he needs some adversity against a viable, serious opponent who will ask him questions and demand answers.

[El Kabong]

I don't think Berto is all that great a boxer or has significant power and that spells doom for any match up vs Cotto.


Berto-Judah or Berto-Gomez would be pretty good

[Taeth]

Where has Berto shown anything except at least very good power? He has knocked out 19 of 22 opponents, His second and fouth fight were both UD, but since then only his fight with Rivera has gone the distance, and that flash knockdown in that fight is the only round I've seen him lose this far, and probably in his entire career. He has Lennox Lewis salivating over his potential. He's probably the fastest guy in the 147 pound division(Zab is up there, but he's 30, and doesn't throw combinations like Andre) He has had good middle stage fights with Rivera, Estrada(who went 12 rounds wiht MOsley, and it took 10 rounds for Cintron to KO him), and Rodriguez isn't a bad fighter either. He is fighting Forbes which should be a better evaluation of his skill level.

I don't see why people don't see his style as very dangerous for Cotto, he is resilient, he has great stamina, he DOES throw with power, and his most dangerous punch, the uppercut, is the punch Cotto is most susceptible to. I have acknowledged he needs a few more fights to face guys like Cotto, but I can't believe people are being this hard on this guy, I mean Hopkins had barely turned pro by 24, Cotto had foughten Torres and Corley and nobody at that point would have thought he would beat Judah or Mosley down the road because they had seen just how vulnerable he was. Berto has shown way less vulnerability and even more upside IMO.

[ssss]

Where has Berto shown anything except at least very good power? He has knocked out 19 of 22 opponents, His second and fouth fight were both UD, but since then only his fight with Rivera has gone the distance, and that flash knockdown in that fight is the only round I've seen him lose this far, and probably in his entire career. He has Lennox Lewis salivating over his potential. He's probably the fastest guy in the 147 pound division(Zab is up there, but he's 30, and doesn't throw combinations like Andre) He has had good middle stage fights with Rivera, Estrada(who went 12 rounds wiht MOsley, and it took 10 rounds for Cintron to KO him), and Rodriguez isn't a bad fighter either. He is fighting Forbes which should be a better evaluation of his skill level.

I don't see why people don't see his style as very dangerous for Cotto, he is resilient, he has great stamina, he DOES throw with power, and his most dangerous punch, the uppercut, is the punch Cotto is most susceptible to. I have acknowledged he needs a few more fights to face guys like Cotto, but I can't believe people are being this hard on this guy, I mean Hopkins had barely turned pro by 24, Cotto had foughten Torres and Corley and nobody at that point would have thought he would beat Judah or Mosley down the road because they had seen just how vulnerable he was. Berto has shown way less vulnerability and even more upside IMO.

Andre Berto has never been in with a good opponent thats why he has that KO ratio.

[Markusdarkus]

Where has Berto shown anything except at least very good power? He has knocked out 19 of 22 opponents, His second and fouth fight were both UD, but since then only his fight with Rivera has gone the distance, and that flash knockdown in that fight is the only round I've seen him lose this far, and probably in his entire career. He has Lennox Lewis salivating over his potential. He's probably the fastest guy in the 147 pound division(Zab is up there, but he's 30, and doesn't throw combinations like Andre) He has had good middle stage fights with Rivera, Estrada(who went 12 rounds wiht MOsley, and it took 10 rounds for Cintron to KO him), and Rodriguez isn't a bad fighter either. He is fighting Forbes which should be a better evaluation of his skill level.

I don't see why people don't see his style as very dangerous for Cotto, he is resilient, he has great stamina, he DOES throw with power, and his most dangerous punch, the uppercut, is the punch Cotto is most susceptible to. I have acknowledged he needs a few more fights to face guys like Cotto, but I can't believe people are being this hard on this guy, I mean Hopkins had barely turned pro by 24, Cotto had foughten Torres and Corley and nobody at that point would have thought he would beat Judah or Mosley down the road because they had seen just how vulnerable he was. Berto has shown way less vulnerability and even more upside IMO.

Andre Berto has never been in with a good opponent thats why he has that KO ratio.

Agreed look at Carl Froch.

[LacosteDon]

I rather see him fight the likes of carlos quintana, zab judah (if he losses), even a kermit cintron (who is maybe a lil better then ppl thought because cotto loss aswell) but for berto to be fighting cotto even after 2 to 3 fights wouldnt be close in my eyes
peace

[Markusdarkus]

How Berto has a belt fighting the crap he has is beyond me.

Berto like Froch like Khan have yet to face ANYONE let alone someone decent so i will assume that Cotto will murder him.

BUT! with Cottos inability to take a lot of punishment means one never knows.

[El Kabong]

Cotto can't take punishment He took 11 rounds of Margarito's hardest stuff.....least see anyone else do that while trading with him (bar Paul Williams who if Tony BOXED would destroy with repeated right crosses)


So the biggest name on Berto's record is David Estrada he KO'd him that's ok I guess, Cintron softened him up for everyone. He couldn't KO Cosme Rivera who Judah KO'd in 3.

I think the Berto fans had better not overlook Steve Forbes because he may shock the world as he can take a shot and can box pretty well

[Markusdarkus]

Cotto can't take punishment He took 11 rounds of Margarito's hardest stuff.....least see anyone else do that while trading with him (bar Paul Williams who if Tony BOXED would destroy with repeated right crosses)


So the biggest name on Berto's record is David Estrada he KO'd him that's ok I guess, Cintron softened him up for everyone. He couldn't KO Cosme Rivera who Judah KO'd in 3.

I think the Berto fans had better not overlook Steve Forbes because he may shock the world as he can take a shot and can box pretty well

Cotto doesnt take punishment well he hit Marg much harder and more often.

He has a solid chin but its far from great Clottey and Williams took Margaritos bombs.

[Mar]

I love berto...but right now he wouldn't stand a chance, too huge of a jump in competition, in say maybe like a four rounder it would be kinda interesting but cotto is still cotto. One loss doesn't put him on the radar for guys like berto. Berto is champ now though so these kind of match-up aren't out of the question, i hope berto takes bigger jumps in comp in fact he will have to, but i hope he keeps it a reasonable as he possibly can without looking like a punk cause i do see a lot of potential for this kid to be the man one day.

[Fenster]

I think Cotto would KO him at the moment (if he recovers OK from his loss, that is).

I can see Berto winning a big-ish fight, but he needs to string a few consistantly good world-class performances together.

[MWMerlino]

The Cotto that lost to Margarito would destroy Berto and I'm a huge Berto fan. Berto is ripe for Cottos Jab and Left to the body, he needs to fight the winner of Judah/Clottey--I say he can beat them both. After that fight, maybe Collazo and by that time he will have to start fighting the Margs/Cotto/Williams and then we will see if we have this generations Fantastic 4.

[belakbox]

I think it would a good fight for Cotto. I think Berto is just unpolished enough to lose against a Cotto who could use a confidence booster after his loss.

That said, I've only seen about 4 berto fights. He does look very good, fast, strong upper cuts. So he shouldn't be taken likely by anyone. I love this division.