Why is David Haye so disliked o here???

[TommyGunn_]

I like Haye, he's the only real bit of talent in the HW division with a chance of clearing it up.

[sonny78]

I like Haye, he's the only real bit of talent in the HW division with a chance of clearing it up.

Surely we will only know this when he fights someone in the heavyweight division (top 10)

[Markusdarkus]

I like Haye, he's the only real bit of talent in the HW division with a chance of clearing it up.

Surely we will only know this when he fights someone in the heavyweight division (top 10)

Bet your life that Haye will be better at Heavy than he was at Cruser.

[porkypara]

I like Haye, he's the only real bit of talent in the HW division with a chance of clearing it up.

Surely we will only know this when he fights someone in the heavyweight division (top 10)

I would say Haye is the most talented boxer in the HW division right now.


The big question is what happens when Haye get hit on the chin by a 16st+ guy.

[Wayne]

At worse he has got a big mouth and loves himself a bit but apart from that whats to hate about him?

He has -speed
-power
-footwork
-always in great shape and actualy looks like a pro boxer unlike a lot of fat HW
-creates media interest in boxing
-wants to fight the very best out there

He talks like he's done something in the division and hasn't. Hell, he only has 22 fights. Let him fight somebody at heavyweight then we'll cut him some slack.

[porkypara]

At worse he has got a big mouth and loves himself a bit but apart from that whats to hate about him?

He has -speed
-power
-footwork
-always in great shape and actualy looks like a pro boxer unlike a lot of fat HW
-creates media interest in boxing
-wants to fight the very best out there

He talks like he's done something in the division and hasn't. Hell, he only has 22 fights. Let him fight somebody at heavyweight then we'll cut him some slack.

The HW of today are a joke thats whyI think he could beat any of them right now apart from the Klichko boys which I would make a 50/50 fight.

[sonny78]

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Originally Posted by sonny78
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I like Haye, he's the only real bit of talent in the HW division with a chance of clearing it up.
Surely we will only know this when he fights someone in the heavyweight division (top 10)

Bet your life that Haye will be better at Heavy than he was at Cruser.

Well I wont bet my life I quite like it!! and I hope he is better at heavy than he is at crusier to be fair what did he do that was so great at cruser?

I would say Haye is the most talented boxer in the HW division right now.


The big question is what happens when Haye get hit on the chin by a 16st+ guy.

Talented yes but proven no

David Haye is one of the most talented boxers at Curser or Heavy but he has massive weaknesses and until he proves he can get past his weak chin and suspect stamina you cant say he is going to rule the roost at Heavy

I say he has shown great qualities but has not yet shown us he is a great fighter hope he does

[porkypara]

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Originally Posted by sonny78
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I like Haye, he's the only real bit of talent in the HW division with a chance of clearing it up.
Surely we will only know this when he fights someone in the heavyweight division (top 10)

Bet your life that Haye will be better at Heavy than he was at Cruser.

Well I wont bet my life I quite like it!! and I hope he is better at heavy than he is at crusier to be fair what did he do that was so great at cruser?

Apart from winning the WBC,WBA,WBO and Ring world championships he did fuck all.


What more did you want him to do at the weight?

[JT Rock]

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Originally Posted by sonny78
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I like Haye, he's the only real bit of talent in the HW division with a chance of clearing it up.
Surely we will only know this when he fights someone in the heavyweight division (top 10)

Bet your life that Haye will be better at Heavy than he was at Cruser.

Well I wont bet my life I quite like it!! and I hope he is better at heavy than he is at crusier to be fair what did he do that was so great at cruser?

Apart from winning the WBC,WBA,WBO and Ring world championships he did fuck all.


What more did you want him to do at the weight?

He didnt beat Chuck Norris

[porkypara]

Well I wont bet my life I quite like it!! and I hope he is better at heavy than he is at crusier to be fair what did he do that was so great at cruser?

Apart from winning the WBC,WBA,WBO and Ring world championships he did fuck all.


What more did you want him to do at the weight?

He didnt beat Chuck Norris

Or Bruce Lee

[C-Lo]

Apart from winning the WBC,WBA,WBO and Ring world championships he did fuck all.


What more did you want him to do at the weight?

He didnt beat Chuck Norris

Or Bruce Lee

I think Chuck Norris is closer to his weight class than Bruce

[porkypara]

He didnt beat Chuck Norris

Or Bruce Lee

I think Chuck Norris is closer to his weight class than Bruce

Yes but Bruce Lee looks a bit like Manny Pacquiao so he has got to be hard!

[El Kabong]

EXAMPLE-Jones Moves up to HW and beats John Ruiz then says he is not willing to fight any of the so called SUPERheavyweights like Lewis or the Kiltschko boys.
The only other fight he wanted at HW was against washed up Mike Tyson.

James Toney moves up to HW and beats an old Holyfield and anounces that he would fight any HW in the world including then champ Lennox Lewis.

Point is Haye wants to fight the best out there same as James Toney when he moved up and unlike Jones who wanted hand picked opponents.

Whats wrong with wanting to fight the best?

While your point has good intentions it falls short of being relevant as Roy Jones Jr. was risky life and limb just fighting at heavyweight and therefore it wasn't expected that he was going to fight the superheavyweights.

David Haye is a heavyweight in the cruiserweight division he isn't moving up multiple divisions he isn't really risking anything. It's more like Miguel Cotto moving up from 140 to 147 and saying "I'll fight anyone"

[porkypara]

EXAMPLE-Jones Moves up to HW and beats John Ruiz then says he is not willing to fight any of the so called SUPERheavyweights like Lewis or the Kiltschko boys.
The only other fight he wanted at HW was against washed up Mike Tyson.

James Toney moves up to HW and beats an old Holyfield and anounces that he would fight any HW in the world including then champ Lennox Lewis.

Point is Haye wants to fight the best out there same as James Toney when he moved up and unlike Jones who wanted hand picked opponents.

Whats wrong with wanting to fight the best?

While your point has good intentions it falls short of being relevant as Roy Jones Jr. was risky life and limb just fighting at heavyweight and therefore it wasn't expected that he was going to fight the superheavyweights.

David Haye is a heavyweight in the cruiserweight division he isn't moving up multiple divisions he isn't really risking anything. It's more like Miguel Cotto moving up from 140 to 147 and saying "I'll fight anyone"

I think James Toney ,Evander Holyfield and that big Russian Vauv(not quite sure} proved that Jones was not risking life and limb at HW.
Ruiz was a joke that the wba kept going for some reason.

Jones could have gone down as the greatest fighter ever but he blew it!

[El Kabong]

....I think we're playing some revisionist history here porky. It was known Roy was going to fight Ruiz and that was basically it. There were rumors about a fight with Byrd but still....he wasn't going to fight Valuev or anyone else BECAUSE he would be risking too much. People still worried about him fighting Tyson.....and Tyson wasn't a top 10 heavyweight at that point in time. If he fought Vitali he would have been seriously or permenantly injured.

And comparing Haye to him is ridiculous because Haye has basically always been a heavyweight he's just been in the cruiserweight division if he was only going ot fight one heavyweight he'd be called a pussy because he's a true heavyweight. Roy didn't weigh enough to be a real heavyweight anyway 193.


This is ridiculous.....comparing Haye to Roy Jones Jr. that is insane