When will it ever stop? Just give the man his due...

[Taeth]

You aren't giving Williams credit, he was the reason Margarito wasn't able to get off the to a quick start, and he, Paul, was boxing circles around Tony. He also survived the last few rounds to win the fight by a solid lead. I don't see how people had that as a close fight.

Also Clottey broke his hands in that fight. Would he have won if they hadn't been broken? I don't know, but he was certainly controlling the early rounds, and not in the same way as Cotto, he was taken Margarito's punches, and dishing out better ones himself, until he hurt his hands.

Margarito is a good, tough fighter, but he isn't a young Antonio Barrera or Morrales, or even JLC. Castillo got stopped when he was a teenager by cuts, he was fought everyone, his chin was amazing, but he had skill. THats all I am looking for if Margarito had good technique I wouldn't care if he was as slow as a sloth or got hit a lot, Pavlik is an example of aguy who is slow, but he has mastered the technique, and now I like him. But Margarito is exactly what I hate about boxing, a guy who takes shots willingly in the head, and uses mundane pugilism to win fights.

[oakleyno1]

margarito is a good fighter, no more imo.

he is a bad boxer and takes about 3-4 rounds to start cracking up the pace.
to his credit he has one ofthe best ever chins and punches fairly hard and his workrate is right up there.
but someone like mayweather would beat him easily it would be like baldomir all over again.

clotty and williams imo both take him because they generally have tight defences and good chins to.

you wont knock margarito out, but he isnt an elit fighter i dont think.

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

This is the first fight i saw of clottey and he looked damn dangerous. Judah couldn't keep up the pace and was wearing down quite quickly before the stoppage.

[SigmaMu]

margarito is a good fighter, no more imo.

he is a bad boxer and takes about 3-4 rounds to start cracking up the pace.
to his credit he has one ofthe best ever chins and punches fairly hard and his workrate is right up there.
but someone like mayweather would beat him easily it would be like baldomir all over again.

clotty and williams imo both take him because they generally have tight defences and good chins to.

you wont knock margarito out, but he isnt an elit fighter i dont think.

He can't box for shiet but his chin, his work rate, his stamina, his power and his size are enough for him. Tony is a small Middle Weight at best who can make 147. Just imagine if he was fast and could box Man did Floyd retire just in time or what? Floyd knew what he was doing when he said he was retiring after Baldomir. Floyd might fool the people by saying who is Tony Margarito but the TRUTH is.. Floyd and his camp knew EXACTLY who the phuk Tony Margarito was and is.

But hey! Shaq can't shoot a free throw to save his own life lol That's real, you work with what God gives you.

[DaxxKahn]

margarito is a good fighter, no more imo.

he is a bad boxer and takes about 3-4 rounds to start cracking up the pace.
to his credit he has one ofthe best ever chins and punches fairly hard and his workrate is right up there.
but someone like mayweather would beat him easily it would be like baldomir all over again.

clotty and williams imo both take him because they generally have tight defences and good chins to.

you wont knock margarito out, but he isnt an elit fighter i dont think.

He can't box for shiet but his chin, his work rate, his stamina, his power and his size are enough for him. Tony is a small Middle Weight at best who can make 147. Just imagine if he was fast and could box Man did Floyd retire just in time or what? Floyd knew what he was doing when he said he was retiring after Baldomir. Floyd might fool the people by saying who is Tony Margarito but the TRUTH is.. Floyd and his camp knew EXACTLY who the phuk Tony Margarito was and is.

But hey! Shaq can't shoot a free throw to save his own life lol That's real, you work with what God gives you.

Well said and good way to sum Tony up...

[SigmaMu]

margarito is a good fighter, no more imo.

he is a bad boxer and takes about 3-4 rounds to start cracking up the pace.
to his credit he has one ofthe best ever chins and punches fairly hard and his workrate is right up there.
but someone like mayweather would beat him easily it would be like baldomir all over again.

clotty and williams imo both take him because they generally have tight defences and good chins to.

you wont knock margarito out, but he isnt an elit fighter i dont think.

He can't box for shiet but his chin, his work rate, his stamina, his power and his size are enough for him. Tony is a small Middle Weight at best who can make 147. Just imagine if he was fast and could box Man did Floyd retire just in time or what? Floyd knew what he was doing when he said he was retiring after Baldomir. Floyd might fool the people by saying who is Tony Margarito but the TRUTH is.. Floyd and his camp knew EXACTLY who the phuk Tony Margarito was and is.

But hey! Shaq can't shoot a free throw to save his own life lol That's real, you work with what God gives you.

Well said and good way to sum Tony up...

The sad thing here is... believe it or not, Tony's defence has gotten better, it's the one thing they really worked hard during camp for this fight against Miguel the funny thing is, Tony did the same thing to Miguel after a flurry of shots, Tony just kept coming foward with a huge grin on his face like he did against Cintron. That against Cintron was what made a believer out of JT_rock Anyway, I hope Margarito vs Williams is made and I hope the second fight is better than their first encounter because to be honest, I thought the first fight was a little dull but then again, I was rooting for Margarito and it was just getting frustrating to see:
1:- Williams doing too much holding
2.- Margarito fighting with his hands in his pockets in the early rounds.

The most important thing to keep in mind here is both fighters have vowed to start fast and for the most part they have although Williams against Quintana was very fast, it took Tony at least 6 rounds to get going against Cotto but I am still hoping for the rematch and I have huge expectations and I hope I am not let down again Note: Tony had to work at slowing Miguel down and he did this with uppercuts and body shots.

[leftylee]

He can't box for shiet but his chin, his work rate, his stamina, his power and his size are enough for him. Tony is a small Middle Weight at best who can make 147. Just imagine if he was fast and could box Man did Floyd retire just in time or what? Floyd knew what he was doing when he said he was retiring after Baldomir. Floyd might fool the people by saying who is Tony Margarito but the TRUTH is.. Floyd and his camp knew EXACTLY who the phuk Tony Margarito was and is.

But hey! Shaq can't shoot a free throw to save his own life lol That's real, you work with what God gives you.

Well said and good way to sum Tony up...

The sad thing here is... believe it or not, Tony's defence has gotten better, it's the one thing they really worked hard during camp for this fight against Miguel the funny thing is, Tony did the same thing to Miguel after a flurry of shots, Tony just kept coming foward with a huge grin on his face like he did against Cintron. That against Cintron was what made a believer out of JT_rock Anyway, I hope Margarito vs Williams is made and I hope the second fight is better than their first encounter because to be honest, I thought the first fight was a little dull but then again, I was rooting for Margarito and it was just getting frustrating to see:
1:- Williams doing too much holding
2.- Margarito fighting with his hands in his pockets in the early rounds.

The most important thing to keep in mind here is both fighters have vowed to start fast and for the most part they have although Williams against Quintana was very fast, it took Tony at least 6 rounds to get going against Cotto but I am still hoping for the rematch and I have huge expectations and I hope I am not let down again Note: Tony had to work at slowing Miguel down and he did this with uppercuts and body shots.

Danny G back to his finest. Talking about the welterweights and nothing more Have a round of applause Fanny

[SigmaMu]

Well said and good way to sum Tony up...

The sad thing here is... believe it or not, Tony's defence has gotten better, it's the one thing they really worked hard during camp for this fight against Miguel the funny thing is, Tony did the same thing to Miguel after a flurry of shots, Tony just kept coming foward with a huge grin on his face like he did against Cintron. That against Cintron was what made a believer out of JT_rock Anyway, I hope Margarito vs Williams is made and I hope the second fight is better than their first encounter because to be honest, I thought the first fight was a little dull but then again, I was rooting for Margarito and it was just getting frustrating to see:
1:- Williams doing too much holding
2.- Margarito fighting with his hands in his pockets in the early rounds.

The most important thing to keep in mind here is both fighters have vowed to start fast and for the most part they have although Williams against Quintana was very fast, it took Tony at least 6 rounds to get going against Cotto but I am still hoping for the rematch and I have huge expectations and I hope I am not let down again Note: Tony had to work at slowing Miguel down and he did this with uppercuts and body shots.

Danny G back to his finest. Talking about the welterweights and nothing more Have a round of applause Fanny

It has always been my favorite division. What is wrong with liking the welter weight division? I could see you talking shiet to me if I was talking about the heavy weight division but I am talking about one of the most exciting division in the sport. Should I knock you for talking about the cruiserweight division in which you think that the running biatch named david G@ye is so great? No, I am not going to knock you because you like Ricky the pink face hatton or Davida G@ye, you only like yellow teeth fighters or what? Oh wait, they are both brits, my bad, you british fan boy you. As long as they brits you will root for them right? I don't root for race like you. Ok, now close your little puzzy hole up now, speaking of holes, when are you going to pop your little cherry? Are you afraid of pootang pie? When I was your age, the last thing I did was sit around the house, you can't get away poonaanaa? You must be afraid of poonaanaa

[DaxxKahn]

He can't box for shiet but his chin, his work rate, his stamina, his power and his size are enough for him. Tony is a small Middle Weight at best who can make 147. Just imagine if he was fast and could box Man did Floyd retire just in time or what? Floyd knew what he was doing when he said he was retiring after Baldomir. Floyd might fool the people by saying who is Tony Margarito but the TRUTH is.. Floyd and his camp knew EXACTLY who the phuk Tony Margarito was and is.

But hey! Shaq can't shoot a free throw to save his own life lol That's real, you work with what God gives you.

Well said and good way to sum Tony up...

The sad thing here is... believe it or not, Tony's defence has gotten better, it's the one thing they really worked hard during camp for this fight against Miguel the funny thing is, Tony did the same thing to Miguel after a flurry of shots, Tony just kept coming foward with a huge grin on his face like he did against Cintron. That against Cintron was what made a believer out of JT_rock Anyway, I hope Margarito vs Williams is made and I hope the second fight is better than their first encounter because to be honest, I thought the first fight was a little dull but then again, I was rooting for Margarito and it was just getting frustrating to see:
1:- Williams doing too much holding
2.- Margarito fighting with his hands in his pockets in the early rounds.

The most important thing to keep in mind here is both fighters have vowed to start fast and for the most part they have although Williams against Quintana was very fast, it took Tony at least 6 rounds to get going against Cotto but I am still hoping for the rematch and I have huge expectations and I hope I am not let down again Note: Tony had to work at slowing Miguel down and he did this with uppercuts and body shots.

I think Margarito has that mentality of "Lets fight Mother F***** not dance"....Hence the just walk through shots...Something very impressive yet very foolish at the same time...

I hope there is a rematch between him and Williams and exactly as you said...I hope it does not disappoint

[SigmaMu]

Well said and good way to sum Tony up...

The sad thing here is... believe it or not, Tony's defence has gotten better, it's the one thing they really worked hard during camp for this fight against Miguel the funny thing is, Tony did the same thing to Miguel after a flurry of shots, Tony just kept coming foward with a huge grin on his face like he did against Cintron. That against Cintron was what made a believer out of JT_rock Anyway, I hope Margarito vs Williams is made and I hope the second fight is better than their first encounter because to be honest, I thought the first fight was a little dull but then again, I was rooting for Margarito and it was just getting frustrating to see:
1:- Williams doing too much holding
2.- Margarito fighting with his hands in his pockets in the early rounds.

The most important thing to keep in mind here is both fighters have vowed to start fast and for the most part they have although Williams against Quintana was very fast, it took Tony at least 6 rounds to get going against Cotto but I am still hoping for the rematch and I have huge expectations and I hope I am not let down again Note: Tony had to work at slowing Miguel down and he did this with uppercuts and body shots.

I think Margarito has that mentality of "Lets fight Mother F***** not dance"....Hence the just walk through shots...Something very impressive yet very foolish at the same time...

I hope there is a rematch between him and Williams and exactly as you said...I hope it does not disappoint

I got word from a friend that saw Tony in camp before the fight and he said that....When he was asked what he thought the outcome of the fight would be, he said... Tony has been working on nothing but defense and based on this, I think it will be a boring fight and Tony will get the decision. E. Stewy at the very begining of round one said That Tony's defense was looking pretty good and he thought that Tony's defense was under-rated, it's not that it is under rated, it has improved believe that or not and it has. I guess they are still trying to iron out the kinks and wrinkles because there was a lot more head movement from Tony and I have to agree that his defense is improving

[leftylee]

Since he OWNED Cotto Margarito has my respect.

[ssss]

You aren't giving Williams credit, he was the reason Margarito wasn't able to get off the to a quick start, and he, Paul, was boxing circles around Tony. He also survived the last few rounds to win the fight by a solid lead. I don't see how people had that as a close fight.

Also Clottey broke his hands in that fight. Would he have won if they hadn't been broken? I don't know, but he was certainly controlling the early rounds, and not in the same way as Cotto, he was taken Margarito's punches, and dishing out better ones himself, until he hurt his hands.

Margarito is a good, tough fighter, but he isn't a young Antonio Barrera or Morrales, or even JLC. Castillo got stopped when he was a teenager by cuts, he was fought everyone, his chin was amazing, but he had skill. THats all I am looking for if Margarito had good technique I wouldn't care if he was as slow as a sloth or got hit a lot, Pavlik is an example of aguy who is slow, but he has mastered the technique, and now I like him. But Margarito is exactly what I hate about boxing, a guy who takes shots willingly in the head, and uses mundane pugilism to win fights.

Antonio Margarito had a severe sprained ankle and a shoulder injury shortly before the Joshua Clottey fight he wasn't at his best........

And if you actually read up on Joshua Clottey he later admitted he didn't break his hand.

[Jesse James]

I completely agree with Daxx. People hate on Tony because he's not slick, he's not fancy, he's not fast, etc. He might not be pretty in the ring but he wins fights, isn't that what it's all about? Tony is old school. He's a throwback to the days when it was prizefighting, not boxing. You actually had to be tough and fight for a victory. Nowadays, too many fighters are primadonnas who just use their natural athletic ability to dance their way to victory. I'm not hating on guys who are naturally more talented, but I think it's a sign of extreme arrogance and elitism to hate on anyone who doesn't have the natural gifts of a Mayweather or Roy Jones. Everybody has their strengths and weaknesses, and they use what works for them. You don't have to like Tony, but the constant put downs are nothing but childishness.

It's funny that so many people say that if it wasn't for Tony's chin he wouldn't be where he is today. Well, I could say if it wasn't for Floyd's talent, he wouldn't be where he is today. That might sound silly, but think about it. Floyd is an incredibly gifted athlete by nature, it's something he didn't choose or earn. I'm not saying he doesn't work hard also, but if he didn't have the natural ability, he wouldn't be so great. All fighters work hard, but Floyd has the advantage of being blessed with an extraordinary natural ability. Does that mean we should hold that against him?

PS- Let's be honest, the real reason people hate on Tony is because they can't stand the fact that a clumsy guy with a mullet will beat their smooth, Gucci wearing, favorite fighter's ass.

[Taeth]

You aren't giving Williams credit, he was the reason Margarito wasn't able to get off the to a quick start, and he, Paul, was boxing circles around Tony. He also survived the last few rounds to win the fight by a solid lead. I don't see how people had that as a close fight.

Also Clottey broke his hands in that fight. Would he have won if they hadn't been broken? I don't know, but he was certainly controlling the early rounds, and not in the same way as Cotto, he was taken Margarito's punches, and dishing out better ones himself, until he hurt his hands.

Margarito is a good, tough fighter, but he isn't a young Antonio Barrera or Morrales, or even JLC. Castillo got stopped when he was a teenager by cuts, he was fought everyone, his chin was amazing, but he had skill. THats all I am looking for if Margarito had good technique I wouldn't care if he was as slow as a sloth or got hit a lot, Pavlik is an example of aguy who is slow, but he has mastered the technique, and now I like him. But Margarito is exactly what I hate about boxing, a guy who takes shots willingly in the head, and uses mundane pugilism to win fights.

Antonio Margarito had a severe sprained ankle and a shoulder injury shortly before the Joshua Clottey fight he wasn't at his best........

And if you actually read up on Joshua Clottey he later admitted he didn't break his hand.

Margarito didn't have a severe sprained ankle... give me a break. You can't move like a boxer does on that. That's as much BS as I've ever heard. Regardless I give Margarito credit for beating Cintron and Cotto, but he isn't a mexican great. He puts shame IMO to the names of Barrera, JMM, JCC, Morrales, etc. Who have great heart, chins, and skill because he lacks so much that they had.

[eagle]

There are also ppl on here who give him more dues than he deserves. Some ppl seem to think that cos he beat Cotto that he is some kind of machine that cannot be beaten, when Paul Williams proved no that long ago that it can be done. I think he is the number one welter at the moment, what more dues does he deserve?