Who will win, Obama or McCain?

[Kirkland Laing]

It looks like it's going to be Obama unfortunately. What will probably clinch it for him is the economy continuing to go south. Americans will not want another four years of Bush economics come November. It's starting to look like the subprime meltdown was the tip of the iceberg and there'll be plenty more bad news between now and November, although I'm guessing the worst won't become apparent till after the election. But there'll be more than enough problems to sink McCain no matter how dirty his campaign gets over the next few months.

Economy keep going south eh? You're a retard

You would have thought that by now you'd have begun to recognise the futility of arguing with somebody who is always right about everything but obviously not. Exactly why do you think the economy is doing well?

[El Kabong]

Are we in a reccession Is oil getting more expensive? Is the stock market crashing Is the dollar still falling?


I'm sorry buddy but the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse ain't riding through that door....you're wishing, you're hoping but it's not happening. And WHY you would support a dumbass like Obama is beyond me if it's not written for him to read then he doesn't know a God damn thing! He just told a 7 year old girl "America isn't what it once was and it's not what it could be".....and that's why he got in the race?!?!?! He COULD have said "America is facing new and important challenges and I believe that the solutions I bring to the table will keep the United States as the one shining example of greatness in the world" or something inspirational like that but NOOOOOO he just told a 7 year old her country sucks.....what a fucking jackass!

[Kirkland Laing]

Are we in a reccession Is oil getting more expensive? Is the stock market crashing Is the dollar still falling?


I'm sorry buddy but the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse ain't riding through that door....you're wishing, you're hoping but it's not happening. And WHY you would support a dumbass like Obama is beyond me if it's not written for him to read then he doesn't know a God damn thing! He just told a 7 year old girl "America isn't what it once was and it's not what it could be".....and that's why he got in the race?!?!?! He COULD have said "America is facing new and important challenges and I believe that the solutions I bring to the table will keep the United States as the one shining example of greatness in the world" or something inspirational like that but NOOOOOO he just told a 7 year old her country sucks.....what a fucking jackass!

Yes, yes, yes and yes.

And I really hope Obama blows it. I hope we discover he has a secret love child with Osama in October.

[Plopeater]

Just be glad you don't have Gordon Brown

[El Kabong]

Yes, yes, yes and yes.

And I really hope Obama blows it. I hope we discover he has a secret love child with Osama in October.

.....you don't look at the stock market often do you?

Obama is an empty suit much like John Edwards...ever hear him answer questions and decide which side of an argument he's on, you'd think you were in a special ed class.

Wait until the debates Obama is going to look like a fool

[Kirkland Laing]

Yes, yes, yes and yes.

And I really hope Obama blows it. I hope we discover he has a secret love child with Osama in October.

.....you don't look at the stock market often do you?

Obama is an empty suit much like John Edwards...ever hear him answer questions and decide which side of an argument he's on, you'd think you were in a special ed class.

Wait until the debates Obama is going to look like a fool

I've worked in the market for nearly twenty years now. What were you doing in 1991? I started work in the trading room of one of the world's biggest investment banks then. Since then I've had quite a good career, so I'm speaking with a degree of confidence in my ability to know what I'm talking about. You're aware the stock market is down around 20% from its previous high, right?

I really hope Obama screws the debates up but unfortunately it's hard to see how he can be worse than the doddering old elitist guy he's up against :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWX5u...ointsmemo.com/

[El Kabong]

Kirkland I tell you this almost every day but once again you're full of shit.


Today the Dow is UP and OIL is DOWN

[Kirkland Laing]

Kirkland I tell you this almost every day but once again you're full of shit.


Today the Dow is UP and OIL is DOWN

You're wrong about everything as much as I'm right about everything. It's uncanny. It's like you're my defective-brained mini-me. The Dow is down almost 20% from its previous high and at the height of the current bear market will be 30-50% down. Oil is up 72% from this time last year.

It's amazing that so many people are conditioned to see the stock market as indicative of their personal wealth. The median working US household has $20 000 in personal savings, roughly enough to pay for a few nights in hospital for a family member should the family lose its health insurance. In New York, one out of five people needs to be given charitable food donations regularly. But somehow the Dow presses peoples' buttons, it's like they're all millionaire investors or something. The real indicator of wealth is median income, the income Joe 150 Million out of 300 million Americans earns, and that's down slightly from how much he was earning in 1970.

This is why things are so out of whack right now, with so much wealth going to a tiny bunch of people at the top that there isn't enough being spent in the economy, it's all being invested. Until a bigger share of the wealth is given to low/middle income earners, where it gets spent instead of invested (71% of US GDP is consumer spending) then economic growth is going to remain as rubbish as it has so far this century.