DelaHoya-Pacquiao Split Negotiations and Purse Talk!

[Lance Uppercut]

I think Bob Arum has made it pretty clear:

Pac will fight De La Hoya in December. If those negotiations fall through which is unlikely at this point

Pac will fight Humberto Soto in November.

[canary]

which guy is the bigger draw here as of the moment?
the current p4p king or the older one?

[killersheep]

which guy is the bigger draw here as of the moment?
the current p4p king or the older one?

The older one. easily, noone draws more than the Golden Boy period.

Here look at this by CD sales

Oscar de la Hoya - self titled = Amazon rank # 36,171

Manny Pacquiao - Laban Nating Lahat Ito Amazon rank # 441,244

nobody actually likes hearing either one of them sing, but that just shows who is more popular.

[Julius Rain]

I think Bob Arum has made it pretty clear:

Pac will fight De La Hoya in December. If those negotiations fall through which is unlikely at this point

Pac will fight Humberto Soto in November.

either soto or valero but valero seem to quite down when pac finally notices him

[killersheep]

I think Bob Arum has made it pretty clear:

Pac will fight De La Hoya in December. If those negotiations fall through which is unlikely at this point

Pac will fight Humberto Soto in November.

either soto or valero but valero seem to quite down when pac finally notices him

Unless Valero takes out Manny in the first round, it's gonna be a one sided slaughter and Edwin knows that. I would prefer Soto at this stage or even Guzman if something happens to his date with Campbell.

[Julius Rain]

I think Bob Arum has made it pretty clear:

Pac will fight De La Hoya in December. If those negotiations fall through which is unlikely at this point

Pac will fight Humberto Soto in November.

either soto or valero but valero seem to quite down when pac finally notices him

Unless Valero takes out Manny in the first round, it's gonna be a one sided slaughter and Edwin knows that. I would prefer Soto at this stage or even Guzman if something happens to his date with Campbell.

Guzman is who i prefer the most. i don't think soto deserves a shot before guzman cause guzman has a win over him. plus some people think guzman can beat pac so i want to see them proven wrong once again. I think Soto would look a like like how the Diaz fight went, pac will crush him.

The casa jmm fight is another interesting match, i'd love to see the winner face pac as well. So for now my list goes like this of fights i want for pac in order.

Guzman/ but he does have a match with campbell.
Casa/JMM
Hatton/ also has a fight scheduled already with paulie.

(I do not think the oscar fight will take place any more.)

See either way pac has nobody to fight but valero but that seem to have been distracted by the oscar talks.

[Pavlik]

I think it's time PAC gives Soto, Guzman and Valero a shot , the same way Barrera gave him the opportunity back in 03. In all Honesty when Valero came he was being branded as the PAC slayer, and then from that day on I was wishing of PAC stopping this guy. I consider that as PAC's greatest achievement if it happens.

[killersheep]

I think it's time PAC gives Soto, Guzman and Valero a shot , the same way Barrera gave him the opportunity back in 03. In all Honesty when Valero came he was being branded as the PAC slayer, and then from that day on I was wishing of PAC stopping this guy. I consider that as PAC's greatest achievement if it happens.

Really? I was high on Valero for a minute, but he is the true definition of a one-trick pony, I would say with all the things that Pac has accomplished in his career, Valero would actually rank pretty low, because what you are saying is that he is a better fighter (bigger challenge) than MAB, Morales and JMM.

[Pavlik]

I think it's time PAC gives Soto, Guzman and Valero a shot , the same way Barrera gave him the opportunity back in 03. In all Honesty when Valero came he was being branded as the PAC slayer, and then from that day on I was wishing of PAC stopping this guy. I consider that as PAC's greatest achievement if it happens.

Really? I was high on Valero for a minute, but he is the true definition of a one-trick pony, I would say with all the things that Pac has accomplished in his career, Valero would actually rank pretty low, because what you are saying is that he is a better fighter (bigger challenge) than MAB, Morales and JMM.

I mean Valero's record really looks good on paper and will look good on PAC's resume
The kid is undefeated, young , most probably a world record holder for most consecutive first round kayos

[Julius Rain]

I think it's time PAC gives Soto, Guzman and Valero a shot , the same way Barrera gave him the opportunity back in 03. In all Honesty when Valero came he was being branded as the PAC slayer, and then from that day on I was wishing of PAC stopping this guy. I consider that as PAC's greatest achievement if it happens.

Really? I was high on Valero for a minute, but he is the true definition of a one-trick pony, I would say with all the things that Pac has accomplished in his career, Valero would actually rank pretty low, because what you are saying is that he is a better fighter (bigger challenge) than MAB, Morales and JMM.

I mean Valero's record really looks good on paper and will look good on PAC's resume
The kid is undefeated, young , most probably a world record holder for most consecutive first round kayos

Solis was a young undefeated figher minus the hyped. I think its pretty clear now that valero would get smash by pac. That fight has lost interest already. I agree with killersheep valero is the lowest rank since solis in pacs resume after he smashes him.

JMM
EM
MAB

Clearly all greater fighters.

Diaz
Larios

Legit former champions and has fought greater oppenents then valero has ever seen.

Solis and Valero would be the two weakest oppenent pac has had since lucero. Another young undefeated fighter pac knock out in 3 rounds.

Pacs resume is second to noun, his weakest oppenents has been young undefeated fighter. So you can not say he does not give chances to the up and comers.

[Pavlik]

Really? I was high on Valero for a minute, but he is the true definition of a one-trick pony, I would say with all the things that Pac has accomplished in his career, Valero would actually rank pretty low, because what you are saying is that he is a better fighter (bigger challenge) than MAB, Morales and JMM.

I mean Valero's record really looks good on paper and will look good on PAC's resume
The kid is undefeated, young , most probably a world record holder for most consecutive first round kayos

Solis was a young undefeated figher minus the hyped. I think its pretty clear now that valero would get smash by pac. That fight has lost interest already. I agree with killersheep valero is the lowest rank since solis in pacs resume after he smashes him.

JMM
EM
MAB

Clearly all greater fighters.

Diaz
Larios

Legit former champions and has fought greater oppenents then valero has ever seen.

Solis and Valero would be the two weakest oppenent pac has had since lucero. Another young undefeated fighter pac knock out in 3 rounds.

Pacs resume is second to noun, his weakest oppenents has been young undefeated fighter. So you can not say he does not give chances to the up and comers.

I agree

[PanchoVilla]

I think it's time PAC gives Soto, Guzman and Valero a shot , the same way Barrera gave him the opportunity back in 03. In all Honesty when Valero came he was being branded as the PAC slayer, and then from that day on I was wishing of PAC stopping this guy. I consider that as PAC's greatest achievement if it happens.

Really? I was high on Valero for a minute, but he is the true definition of a one-trick pony, I would say with all the things that Pac has accomplished in his career, Valero would actually rank pretty low, because what you are saying is that he is a better fighter (bigger challenge) than MAB, Morales and JMM.

I mean Valero's record really looks good on paper and will look good on PAC's resume
The kid is undefeated, young , most probably a world record holder for most consecutive first round kayos

not anymore bro > Tyrone Brunson

[Pavlik]

Really? I was high on Valero for a minute, but he is the true definition of a one-trick pony, I would say with all the things that Pac has accomplished in his career, Valero would actually rank pretty low, because what you are saying is that he is a better fighter (bigger challenge) than MAB, Morales and JMM.

I mean Valero's record really looks good on paper and will look good on PAC's resume
The kid is undefeated, young , most probably a world record holder for most consecutive first round kayos

not anymore bro > Tyrone Brunson

Yup, he did beat Valero's record

[Spicoli]

All in all I agree with previous.Pac vs.Guzman,Campbell would be top notch.If not for Lorenzo pulling a Luis Santana and Cortez lousing up the Title eliminator,Humberto Soto Vs. Manny would be coming up,Solid fight there.Imo....Pac would exploit Valereo's defensive flaws and really do a number on him.

[Scott22]

I think it's time PAC gives Soto, Guzman and Valero a shot , the same way Barrera gave him the opportunity back in 03. In all Honesty when Valero came he was being branded as the PAC slayer, and then from that day on I was wishing of PAC stopping this guy. I consider that as PAC's greatest achievement if it happens.

yes that would be much better than fighting Oscar