Is Abraham the one to stop the Pavlik Express?

[holmcall]

Abraham is extremely strong. He is an economic puncher who starts slowly and sometimes gives the impression, albeit a false one of fighting uninspired. Then, BOOM, he launches a sudden and explosive burst that is malicious in its intent. As well, his left hook can stop any middleweight (as his recent icing of Miranda and his 12th round KO of American Elvin Ayala showed) and his body work is punishing

But Kelly Pavlik is not just "any middleweight." He is an incoming bomber whose orthadox one-two is lethal.

Can Abraham stop the Pavlik express? What do you think?

[RP33]

Abraham is extremely strong. He is an economic puncher who starts slowly and sometimes gives the impression, albeit a false one of fighting uninspired. Then, BOOM, he launches a sudden and explosive burst that is malicious in its intent. As well, his left hook can stop any middleweight (as his recent icing of Miranda and his 12th round KO of American Elvin Ayala showed) and his body work is punishing

But Kelly Pavlik is not just "any middleweight." He is an incoming bomber whose orthadox one-two is lethal.

Can Abraham stop the Pavlik express? What do you think?

i say no.. I don't see anyone stopping Pavlik besides Kessler.. Abraham closes up into a shell, but i've never seen Pavlik not be able to break anyones defense.. He just throws bomb after bomb and if one gets through then you're in a lot of trouble.. Taylor fought Pavlik perfectly in their second fight..

This is the same reason why i think winky loses to pavlik.. The way to beat Pavlik, as i've posted in another thread, is either 1.) Be tougher than him and brawl it out (ex: Edison Miranda's attempt) or 2.) being fast and slick with a defense that involves pavlik missing you completely as opposed to him hitting your gloves, which still has an effect on you.. Kessler is quick enough to do it, and strong enough to affect Kelly.. Abraham is surely powerful enough to affect Kelly, but his output is way too low, and he would have to catch Kelly early in order to not be a ton of rounds down going into the later rounds..

Odds of Abraham beating Pavlik 75/35 in Pavliks favor.. odds of Kessler beating Pavlik 55/45 in Pavliks favor..

[Deanrw]

Abraham is a huge puncher and could KO Pavlik. If Pavlik got stupid it could happen. Like RP33 said though is Abraham goes into a shell more often than not and that is not a good position to be in against Pavlik. If you cover your face Pavlik will either thread the needle or tee off on your forehead, no wonder he always has sore hands.

I would favor Pavlik, but would also not be shocked if Abraham won, because if he hits someone cleanly it can be lights out.

[Master]

I was not impressed with AA beating Miranda, other than the KO he was doing nothing in the fight. He is very strong but very slow. Credit him for taking the fight and coming to the US but he would lose to Pavlik.

[boxer1234]

I was not impressed with AA beating Miranda, other than the KO he was doing nothing in the fight. He is very strong but very slow. Credit him for taking the fight and coming to the US but he would lose to Pavlik.

agreed
It looked exactly like the first fight before Miranda got knocked out

[El Kabong]

.....NO



Next question please

[JohnnyKickAss]

I like both...but if there is actually a middleweight out there that could beat Pavlik its Abraham...and vice versa...