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    Default Re: DelaHoya-Pacquiao Split Negotiations and Purse Talk!

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott22 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post
    I think it's time PAC gives Soto, Guzman and Valero a shot , the same way Barrera gave him the opportunity back in 03. In all Honesty when Valero came he was being branded as the PAC slayer, and then from that day on I was wishing of PAC stopping this guy. I consider that as PAC's greatest achievement if it happens.
    yes that would be much better than fighting Oscar
    Greed has it's hallucinogenic effect on people, can't believe PAC's handlers allowing this to happen

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    Default Re: DelaHoya-Pacquiao Split Negotiations and Purse Talk!

    If the negotiations will finally fail primarily due to Oscar taking most of the money (70-30 split, TV rights, etc).

    Another reason will be that fans/boxing people not giving PAC (with all his capabilities) any chance of defeating Oscar. They see it as a total freak show.

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    Default Re: DelaHoya-Pacquiao Split Negotiations and Purse Talk!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott22 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post
    I think it's time PAC gives Soto, Guzman and Valero a shot , the same way Barrera gave him the opportunity back in 03. In all Honesty when Valero came he was being branded as the PAC slayer, and then from that day on I was wishing of PAC stopping this guy. I consider that as PAC's greatest achievement if it happens.
    yes that would be much better than fighting Oscar
    Greed has it's hallucinogenic effect on people, can't believe PAC's handlers allowing this to happen
    your right it is greed and money messing up there thinking

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    Default Re: DelaHoya-Pacquiao Split Negotiations and Purse Talk!

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott22 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott22 View Post

    yes that would be much better than fighting Oscar
    Greed has it's hallucinogenic effect on people, can't believe PAC's handlers allowing this to happen
    your right it is greed and money messing up there thinking
    You can associate "greed and money" on Oscar but not on Pacquiao. Do you think money is the prime motivating factor why Pacquiao is calling out and challenging Oscar? I don't think so coz a win over Oscar will elevate Pacquiao's boxing legacy in an all time high.

    Defeating Oscar (tho a very difficult task for PAC) would give PAC more leverage in taking remaining bigger fights ahead.
    Last edited by XaduBoxer; 08-11-2008 at 12:21 AM.

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    Default Re: DelaHoya-Pacquiao Split Negotiations and Purse Talk!

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post

    Greed has it's hallucinogenic effect on people, can't believe PAC's handlers allowing this to happen
    your right it is greed and money messing up there thinking
    You can associate "greed and money" on Oscar but not on Pacquiao. Do you think money is the prime motivating factor why Pacquiao is calling out and challenging Oscar? I don't think so coz a win over Oscar will elevate Pacquiao's boxing legacy in an all time high.

    Defeating Oscar (tho a very difficult task for PAC) would give PAC more leverage in taking remaining bigger fights ahead.
    I don't think he needs any more leverage. The way he did a number on Diaz and with his rep he could get a good deal against any lightweight or super feather. And if he cleans up at 135 he would have a good chance at 140 then

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    Quote Originally Posted by plopeater View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott22 View Post

    your right it is greed and money messing up there thinking
    You can associate "greed and money" on Oscar but not on Pacquiao. Do you think money is the prime motivating factor why Pacquiao is calling out and challenging Oscar? I don't think so coz a win over Oscar will elevate Pacquiao's boxing legacy in an all time high.

    Defeating Oscar (tho a very difficult task for PAC) would give PAC more leverage in taking remaining bigger fights ahead.
    I don't think he needs any more leverage. The way he did a number on Diaz and with his rep he could get a good deal against any lightweight or super feather. And if he cleans up at 135 he would have a good chance at 140 then
    When I stated "remaining bigger fights", I mean against Hatton and probably PBF...

    IF (big if) PAC can defeat DelaHoya in a more convincing way than what PBF did to Oscar, then PAC will have some leverage in calling out PBF from retirement and could probably install him as favorite against Hatton...

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    Default Re: DelaHoya-Pacquiao Split Negotiations and Purse Talk!

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by plopeater View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post

    You can associate "greed and money" on Oscar but not on Pacquiao. Do you think money is the prime motivating factor why Pacquiao is calling out and challenging Oscar? I don't think so coz a win over Oscar will elevate Pacquiao's boxing legacy in an all time high.

    Defeating Oscar (tho a very difficult task for PAC) would give PAC more leverage in taking remaining bigger fights ahead.
    I don't think he needs any more leverage. The way he did a number on Diaz and with his rep he could get a good deal against any lightweight or super feather. And if he cleans up at 135 he would have a good chance at 140 then
    When I stated "remaining bigger fights", I mean against Hatton and probably PBF...

    IF (big if) PAC can defeat DelaHoya in a more convincing way than what PBF did to Oscar, then PAC will have some leverage in calling out PBF from retirement and could probably install him as favorite against Hatton...
    If he did well against Casamayor, Campbell etc then and maybe even now I think he would have a chance against Hatton but it would be one tough fight.

    As for PBF, he wouldn't stand a chance

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    Default Re: DelaHoya-Pacquiao Split Negotiations and Purse Talk!

    Regarding gloves, the rule says it's either both of them will wear 10 oz. or 8 oz. gloves. Other than that will not be sanctioned for it's against the rules.

    Hmmnn both conditions favors DelaHoya...

    What Team PAC wants is 8 oz. gloves on PAC and 10 oz. gloves on DelaHoya which is against the rules...
    Last edited by XaduBoxer; 08-11-2008 at 10:13 PM.

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    Default Re: DelaHoya-Pacquiao Split Negotiations and Purse Talk!

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott22 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post

    Greed has it's hallucinogenic effect on people, can't believe PAC's handlers allowing this to happen
    your right it is greed and money messing up there thinking
    You can associate "greed and money" on Oscar but not on Pacquiao. Do you think money is the prime motivating factor why Pacquiao is calling out and challenging Oscar? I don't think so coz a win over Oscar will elevate Pacquiao's boxing legacy in an all time high.

    Defeating Oscar (tho a very difficult task for PAC) would give PAC more leverage in taking remaining bigger fights ahead.
    Pacquiao wants De La Hoya for the money. Nothing else. De La Hoya is no longer the fighter he once was. Everybody knows that. If it's about legacy for Pacquiao than why doesn't he try and set up a fight with Margarito or Cotto? A win over them would mean more than a win over a past his prime De La Hoya. Why not call them out? Cuz neither brings in the dollars like De La Hoya does. That's why. Pacquiao like every fighter out there bows down to the money. Anybody that says otherwise is a fukking idiot.

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    Default Re: DelaHoya-Pacquiao Split Negotiations and Purse Talk!

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott22 View Post

    your right it is greed and money messing up there thinking
    You can associate "greed and money" on Oscar but not on Pacquiao. Do you think money is the prime motivating factor why Pacquiao is calling out and challenging Oscar? I don't think so coz a win over Oscar will elevate Pacquiao's boxing legacy in an all time high.

    Defeating Oscar (tho a very difficult task for PAC) would give PAC more leverage in taking remaining bigger fights ahead.
    Pacquiao wants De La Hoya for the money. Nothing else. De La Hoya is no longer the fighter he once was. Everybody knows that. If it's about legacy for Pacquiao than why doesn't he try and set up a fight with Margarito or Cotto? A win over them would mean more than a win over a past his prime De La Hoya. Why not call them out? Cuz neither brings in the dollars like De La Hoya does. That's why. Pacquiao like every fighter out there bows down to the money. Anybody that says otherwise is a fukking idiot.
    Of course when you fight Oscar, money is always a major factor but I think for PAC, money is just one of the factors. PAC likes to fight legends (Barrera, Morales) and Oscar is a boxing legend. He climbed weight division after weight division chasing these legends. Fighting and defeating a legend will enhance greatly your own legacy. Margarito or Cotto? Sorry but they're not legends yet.

    In terms of legacy, PAC is in a win-win situation with this fight. IF (big if) he wins, his legacy will soar in all time high and he'll probably becomes boxing's most marketable fighter after Oscar retires. If he loses, nothing much will affect his already established legacy. Only idiots will turn down a DelaHoya fight.

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    Default Re: DelaHoya-Pacquiao Split Negotiations and Purse Talk!

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post

    You can associate "greed and money" on Oscar but not on Pacquiao. Do you think money is the prime motivating factor why Pacquiao is calling out and challenging Oscar? I don't think so coz a win over Oscar will elevate Pacquiao's boxing legacy in an all time high.

    Defeating Oscar (tho a very difficult task for PAC) would give PAC more leverage in taking remaining bigger fights ahead.
    Pacquiao wants De La Hoya for the money. Nothing else. De La Hoya is no longer the fighter he once was. Everybody knows that. If it's about legacy for Pacquiao than why doesn't he try and set up a fight with Margarito or Cotto? A win over them would mean more than a win over a past his prime De La Hoya. Why not call them out? Cuz neither brings in the dollars like De La Hoya does. That's why. Pacquiao like every fighter out there bows down to the money. Anybody that says otherwise is a fukking idiot.
    Of course when you fight Oscar, money is always a major factor but I think for PAC, money is just one of the factors. PAC likes to fight legends (Barrera, Morales) and Oscar is a boxing legend. He climbed weight division after weight division chasing these legends. Fighting and defeating a legend will enhance greatly your own legacy. Margarito or Cotto? Sorry but they're not legends yet.

    In terms of legacy, PAC is in a win-win situation with this fight. IF (big if) he wins, his legacy will soar in all time high and he'll probably becomes boxing's most marketable fighter after Oscar retires. If he loses, nothing much will affect his already established legacy. Only idiots will turn down a DelaHoya fight.
    Stop..............just stop, there is no legacy in beating a geriatric ODLH.

    PAC wins- ODLH was over the hill.
    ODLH wins - PAC was too small.

    There are too many excuses for a loss before this fight is even made. Do you think PBF has a legacy because he beat Oscar? NO. People are complaining because he didn't unify a division, is this starting to sound familiar?

    It's about the money and nothing else there is no justification for legacy in this fight, if he would have fought the Golden Boy 3 years ago it would have mattered for something, now it's just cash.
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    Default Re: DelaHoya-Pacquiao Split Negotiations and Purse Talk!

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Of course when you fight Oscar, money is always a major factor but I think for PAC, money is just one of the factors. PAC likes to fight legends (Barrera, Morales) and Oscar is a boxing legend. He climbed weight division after weight division chasing these legends. Fighting and defeating a legend will enhance greatly your own legacy. Margarito or Cotto? Sorry but they're not legends yet.

    In terms of legacy, PAC is in a win-win situation with this fight. IF (big if) he wins, his legacy will soar in all time high and he'll probably becomes boxing's most marketable fighter after Oscar retires. If he loses, nothing much will affect his already established legacy. Only idiots will turn down a DelaHoya fight.
    Stop..............just stop, there is no legacy in beating a geriatric ODLH.

    PAC wins- ODLH was over the hill.
    ODLH wins - PAC was too small.

    There are too many excuses for a loss before this fight is even made. Do you think PBF has a legacy because he beat Oscar? NO. People are complaining because he didn't unify a division, is this starting to sound familiar?

    It's about the money and nothing else there is no justification for legacy in this fight, if he would have fought the Golden Boy 3 years ago it would have mattered for something, now it's just cash.
    I can't understand you people... You're unbelievable...

    First you're totally writing off PAC in this fight. You're saying that PAC has NO CHANCE AT ALL of winning this fight.

    Then IF (big if) PAC does the impossible and defeats Oscar, you will not give him any credit since Oscar is already "old and shot"...

    Oh my... I can't believeeeeeeee this...
    Last edited by XaduBoxer; 08-12-2008 at 12:18 AM.

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    Default Re: DelaHoya-Pacquiao Split Negotiations and Purse Talk!

    Its a real shame when some of Pacs rabid fans and his camp feel the need to chase the ghost of Delahoya who is 2-4 (beat sturm my arse) over the last 5 years and is no where close to what he once was.

    All the while Pac would do himself proud by Meeting and defeating his top fellow Champions and legit threats at his current weight zone,why follow in the shadow's after this absolute P.T Barnum-esq FARCE that will have no bearing or effect on the mass state of boxing Imo.You want a legacy,Unify a division,call out and defeat fellow Current Champs at there best in your new division!

    It keeps being hyped up and brought back to "Pac is being over looked in this farce fight", when in all reality its the match up being overlooked because the majority of Boxing fans fully understand what this is and call it what it is.....B.S money grab. If either one thinks this will do anything to inhance they're respected Legacy,they and others are kidding themselves!

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    Default Re: DelaHoya-Pacquiao Split Negotiations and Purse Talk!

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott22 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post

    Greed has it's hallucinogenic effect on people, can't believe PAC's handlers allowing this to happen
    your right it is greed and money messing up there thinking
    You can associate "greed and money" on Oscar but not on Pacquiao. Do you think money is the prime motivating factor why Pacquiao is calling out and challenging Oscar? I don't think so coz a win over Oscar will elevate Pacquiao's boxing legacy in an all time high.

    Defeating Oscar (tho a very difficult task for PAC) would give PAC more leverage in taking remaining bigger fights ahead.
    Why did PAC back out again? Oh yeah MONEY, NOTHING BUT MONEY!!
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    Default Re: DelaHoya-Pacquiao Split Negotiations and Purse Talk!

    What ever his deteriorated skill set,Its clear and obvious Delahoya is very much the shot caller in this hyped up farce and Pac "needs" him.....not the other way around.

    Pac has more than a few worthy challengers in his own neighborhood with Campbell,Guzman,Soto etc. and should get down to serious business inside the ring.

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