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    So true, there is a guy who is a heavyweight and is currently 37-0 but not yet fought anyone with a heart beat, if you watch him train you would never believe he is a professional boxer nevermind 37-0. The right word hit the mark LAZY. And the trainers don't help
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    Yep, heavyweights interpretation of strict dieting is eating macdonalds 3 times a day rather than their usual 5 times.

    Just look at Sultan Ibragimov, he looks like a construction worker



    lol


    (no disrespect to Construction workers ofcourse! )

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    Well not all boxers (regardless of weight class) look like body builders and the ones that have even in the past didn't do so hot.

    Lennox Lewis never looked like he was Mr. Universe

    Marciano wasn't all ripped as people might think, he was just a tiny dude at 185. Rocky didn't look much different than Sultan looks he just fought harder


    I don't think the physicality of the heavyweights has changed, I think the mentality has though....it seems that challengers aren't willing to take chances, it seems that unless they put you in with a total tomato can then fighters won't go for the KO.


    As for being in shape Wladimir always comes in trained properly and more often than not gets a KO win and all he gets is ridicule for fighting mandatories and fighting smart.


    I guess David Haye will change everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Well not all boxers (regardless of weight class) look like body builders and the ones that have even in the past didn't do so hot.

    Lennox Lewis never looked like he was Mr. Universe

    Marciano wasn't all ripped as people might think, he was just a tiny dude at 185. Rocky didn't look much different than Sultan looks he just fought harder


    I don't think the physicality of the heavyweights has changed, I think the mentality has though....it seems that challengers aren't willing to take chances, it seems that unless they put you in with a total tomato can then fighters won't go for the KO.


    As for being in shape Wladimir always comes in trained properly and more often than not gets a KO win and all he gets is ridicule for fighting mandatories and fighting smart.


    I guess David Haye will change everything
    Ok Lyle.... it's one thing for you to defend Klitschko (I do that myself). But it's quite another to try to defend the state of the HW division. By and large, they're fat bastards, plain and simple. With the mentality of bigger is better, and "let's try for the homerun swing, 'cause I sure ain't gonna make it to the 12th round."

    And Lennox Lewis may not have "looked like Mr. Universe" (whatever that means), but he was always in shape and LOOKED like the athlete he was.

    Is it so hard to praise the efforts and skill of Klitschko without trying to build up the rest of the HW division at the same time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Well not all boxers (regardless of weight class) look like body builders and the ones that have even in the past didn't do so hot.

    Lennox Lewis never looked like he was Mr. Universe

    Marciano wasn't all ripped as people might think, he was just a tiny dude at 185. Rocky didn't look much different than Sultan looks he just fought harder


    I don't think the physicality of the heavyweights has changed, I think the mentality has though....it seems that challengers aren't willing to take chances, it seems that unless they put you in with a total tomato can then fighters won't go for the KO.


    As for being in shape Wladimir always comes in trained properly and more often than not gets a KO win and all he gets is ridicule for fighting mandatories and fighting smart.


    I guess David Haye will change everything
    Ok Lyle.... it's one thing for you to defend Klitschko (I do that myself). But it's quite another to try to defend the state of the HW division. By and large, they're fat bastards, plain and simple. With the mentality of bigger is better, and "let's try for the homerun swing, 'cause I sure ain't gonna make it to the 12th round."

    And Lennox Lewis may not have "looked like Mr. Universe" (whatever that means), but he was always in shape and LOOKED like the athlete he was.

    Is it so hard to praise the efforts and skill of Klitschko without trying to build up the rest of the HW division at the same time?

    Given his last couple fights, I'd say it really is. I mean how can you praise his efforts and skill when he is doing just enough against guys who are mediocre? Much as I agree with the first part of your post, you can't really accept that the division is garbage and full of fat lazy slobs, and at the same time be impressed that Klitschko is able to outjab them with his massive size advantage and take a boring UD without showing a shred of ring craft. I won't say I can see why Lyle is trying to build up the division as frankly I just don't understand how anyone is to entertained watching Klitschko in the first place. But I definetly see the logic in trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Well not all boxers (regardless of weight class) look like body builders and the ones that have even in the past didn't do so hot.

    Lennox Lewis never looked like he was Mr. Universe

    Marciano wasn't all ripped as people might think, he was just a tiny dude at 185. Rocky didn't look much different than Sultan looks he just fought harder


    I don't think the physicality of the heavyweights has changed, I think the mentality has though....it seems that challengers aren't willing to take chances, it seems that unless they put you in with a total tomato can then fighters won't go for the KO.


    As for being in shape Wladimir always comes in trained properly and more often than not gets a KO win and all he gets is ridicule for fighting mandatories and fighting smart.


    I guess David Haye will change everything
    Ok Lyle.... it's one thing for you to defend Klitschko (I do that myself). But it's quite another to try to defend the state of the HW division. By and large, they're fat bastards, plain and simple. With the mentality of bigger is better, and "let's try for the homerun swing, 'cause I sure ain't gonna make it to the 12th round."

    And Lennox Lewis may not have "looked like Mr. Universe" (whatever that means), but he was always in shape and LOOKED like the athlete he was.

    Is it so hard to praise the efforts and skill of Klitschko without trying to build up the rest of the HW division at the same time?

    Given his last couple fights, I'd say it really is. I mean how can you praise his efforts and skill when he is doing just enough against guys who are mediocre? Much as I agree with the first part of your post, you can't really accept that the division is garbage and full of fat lazy slobs, and at the same time be impressed that Klitschko is able to outjab them with his massive size advantage and take a boring UD without showing a shred of ring craft. I won't say I can see why Lyle is trying to build up the division as frankly I just don't understand how anyone is to entertained watching Klitschko in the first place. But I definetly see the logic in trying.
    Well, I'm giving Klitschko the benefit of the doubt in this case, I guess. The truth is... he could've looked sharper in some of his last few fights. He seems to have played it safe. One glaring example was the Sultan fight. I don't care what anybody says. That fight was a hideous exhibition of boxing. That endless pawing by Klitschko was definitely getting on my nerves. So while I defend Klitschko on the basis of his improvement since his glass jaw days, at the same time I feel he could be showing more than he has been.

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    I remember just recently watching a Heavy doing his Roadwork, and a woman pushing a pram passed Him
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    do heavyweights have thicker skulls than smaller fighters?

    in other words, what does it mean when a heavyweight can absorb a punch from a heavyweight, but a smaller fighter can't? if their skulls and heads are about the same size?

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Well not all boxers (regardless of weight class) look like body builders and the ones that have even in the past didn't do so hot.

    Lennox Lewis never looked like he was Mr. Universe

    Marciano wasn't all ripped as people might think, he was just a tiny dude at 185. Rocky didn't look much different than Sultan looks he just fought harder


    I don't think the physicality of the heavyweights has changed, I think the mentality has though....it seems that challengers aren't willing to take chances, it seems that unless they put you in with a total tomato can then fighters won't go for the KO.


    As for being in shape Wladimir always comes in trained properly and more often than not gets a KO win and all he gets is ridicule for fighting mandatories and fighting smart.


    I guess David Haye will change everything
    Ok Lyle.... it's one thing for you to defend Klitschko (I do that myself). But it's quite another to try to defend the state of the HW division. By and large, they're fat bastards, plain and simple. With the mentality of bigger is better, and "let's try for the homerun swing, 'cause I sure ain't gonna make it to the 12th round."

    And Lennox Lewis may not have "looked like Mr. Universe" (whatever that means), but he was always in shape and LOOKED like the athlete he was.

    Is it so hard to praise the efforts and skill of Klitschko without trying to build up the rest of the HW division at the same time?

    Given his last couple fights, I'd say it really is. I mean how can you praise his efforts and skill when he is doing just enough against guys who are mediocre? Much as I agree with the first part of your post, you can't really accept that the division is garbage and full of fat lazy slobs, and at the same time be impressed that Klitschko is able to outjab them with his massive size advantage and take a boring UD without showing a shred of ring craft. I won't say I can see why Lyle is trying to build up the division as frankly I just don't understand how anyone is to entertained watching Klitschko in the first place. But I definetly see the logic in trying.
    I also stick up for wlad. But the thing is, I believe Klitschko needs a true test to make him entertaining again. I am hoping that Haye is that test and IF he is then that should bring a bit of life back to the division again and we won't have to stick up for the rest of the jokes in the division!

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish warrior View Post
    but don cockell was considered huge but he is mini compared to today.

    joe mesi, vitali klitschko, wladamir klitschko, they are the only fit heavies i can think of.

    estrada is fat, arreola fat, witherspoon tubby, tua fat, wheeler fat, tony thompson fat, skeleton fat, chagaev chubby, valuev fat hairy and ape like.


    they all speak very highly of you .

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