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Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
Well not all boxers (regardless of weight class) look like body builders and the ones that have even in the past didn't do so hot.

Lennox Lewis never looked like he was Mr. Universe

Marciano wasn't all ripped as people might think, he was just a tiny dude at 185. Rocky didn't look much different than Sultan looks he just fought harder


I don't think the physicality of the heavyweights has changed, I think the mentality has though....it seems that challengers aren't willing to take chances, it seems that unless they put you in with a total tomato can then fighters won't go for the KO.


As for being in shape Wladimir always comes in trained properly and more often than not gets a KO win and all he gets is ridicule for fighting mandatories and fighting smart.


I guess David Haye will change everything
Ok Lyle.... it's one thing for you to defend Klitschko (I do that myself). But it's quite another to try to defend the state of the HW division. By and large, they're fat bastards, plain and simple. With the mentality of bigger is better, and "let's try for the homerun swing, 'cause I sure ain't gonna make it to the 12th round."

And Lennox Lewis may not have "looked like Mr. Universe" (whatever that means), but he was always in shape and LOOKED like the athlete he was.

Is it so hard to praise the efforts and skill of Klitschko without trying to build up the rest of the HW division at the same time?

Given his last couple fights, I'd say it really is. I mean how can you praise his efforts and skill when he is doing just enough against guys who are mediocre? Much as I agree with the first part of your post, you can't really accept that the division is garbage and full of fat lazy slobs, and at the same time be impressed that Klitschko is able to outjab them with his massive size advantage and take a boring UD without showing a shred of ring craft. I won't say I can see why Lyle is trying to build up the division as frankly I just don't understand how anyone is to entertained watching Klitschko in the first place. But I definetly see the logic in trying.