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    Default Re: if floyd were around during the 80s...

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    Depends exactly what time, and what weight class he were in. PBF is not one of those guys like Castillo or Corrales who cuts a lot of weight, so I can see him fighting in these lower classes under the old rules.

    At 130-135, I make PBF a slight underdog against Camacho and Chavez.

    At 140, like-wise, I make him a slight underdog against Pryor.

    At 147, there's a fairly decent sized list of guys I'd make the favorite over PBF.
    Camacho flustered easily,I see him just leading him around the ring for a decision
    Pryor hit so damned hard Id see that putting Floyd off his game
    I thought Rosario beat Camacho and took him out of his game, but he was a sick puncher who made Camacho run like Forrest Gump. Mayweather is an accurate puncher, but not an especially powerful one, even at the lower weight classes.

    Pryor's workrate, pressure, and whirlwind style would give Mayweather (and just about any jr. welter) problems. It's more the constant activity that would bother Mayweather IMO than the power. Pryor could punch but it wasn't like he had freakish power.
    I think Floyd has better backword footwork then Rosario,he suckered Manfreddy constantlyId bet Macho falls for that,and when he gets flustered when he cant work a guy out
    Pryor had evil power at that weight,I think if Floyd tasted it,he'd be worrying

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    Camacho flustered easily,I see him just leading him around the ring for a decision
    Pryor hit so damned hard Id see that putting Floyd off his game
    I thought Rosario beat Camacho and took him out of his game, but he was a sick puncher who made Camacho run like Forrest Gump. Mayweather is an accurate puncher, but not an especially powerful one, even at the lower weight classes.

    Pryor's workrate, pressure, and whirlwind style would give Mayweather (and just about any jr. welter) problems. It's more the constant activity that would bother Mayweather IMO than the power. Pryor could punch but it wasn't like he had freakish power.

    I think Floyd has better backword footwork then Rosario,he suckered Manfreddy constantlyId bet Macho falls for that,and when he gets flustered when he cant work a guy out
    Pryor had evil power at that weight,I think if Floyd tasted it,he'd be worrying


    DOnt get me wrong im no boxing historian, but i have seen my fair share of fights and a good amount of fighters. To me floyd is the smartest and most calm i have ever seen. he can make his opponenet do things that he do things that set up his own puncges and his denfense is definately the best ive ever seen. I have yet to see him get flustered or worryed. I have seen one or two of pryors fights so i dont really kno all that much about him but in my mind hed have to hit like ernie shavers to "worry" floyd.

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    Default Re: if floyd were around during the 80s...

    No disparaging of Floyd,but Pryor had out of nowhere power,he'd give Camacho fits though

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    Floyd would beat Macho no doubt.

    But at 130-135 out of the 80s i think Chavez beats him and Duran obliterates him. At 140 the Hawlk would stop him.

    At 147 hearns would toast him and Leonard would punch him all over the ring.

    I actually think Oscar, Tito and Mosley in their prime would beat him he just isnt busy enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    No disparaging of Floyd,but Pryor had out of nowhere power,he'd give Camacho fits though
    I don't see this amazing power of Pryor that you're talking about.

    When I think of freakish punchers, I think of fighters like Jackson, Foreman, Zarate, Gomez, Arguello, etc...

    When I think of Pryor, I see him as a solid hitter with terrific workrate and activity, and who could swarm and punch from numerous and unusual angles. Against most of the guys that he stopped in title bouts, fighters like Cervantes, Arguello, Johnson, Kameda, etc....it was just the non-stop activity and avalanche of punches.

    It wasn't one of those "oh damn, one punch totally changed the fight" type things or "this guy is getting messed up from every clean punch landing".

    It was more like "how can I get away from all these shots, this guy never stops throwing??!!"

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    Default Re: if floyd were around during the 80s...

    Pryor would likely beat him, but Floyd would have avoided him if he was fighting in that era.
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    Default Re: if floyd were around during the 80s...

    For someone to say that Floyd would get knocked out by anyone, wouldn't they first have to see him get hurt by someone? I mean I saw him get outworked in Castillo I, but I have never seen him hurt.

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    Default Re: if floyd were around during the 80s...

    ^^^ i agree i have never seen him hurt, worried, flustered, or panicked. He has one recorded knockdown and it was because he broke his hand and accidentally let his knee touch the canvas but brought it right back up.

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    Default Re: if floyd were around during the 80s...

    Quote Originally Posted by DAWGSWIN View Post
    For someone to say that Floyd would get knocked out by anyone, wouldn't they first have to see him get hurt by someone? I mean I saw him get outworked in Castillo I, but I have never seen him hurt.
    It's true...he has never been truly hurt or knocked down...but then again...his resume isn't filled with highly dangerous opponents. Oscar was the closest he ever got to fighting a highly skilled fighter who could maybe hurt him. But Oscar wasn't exactly a young buck when they fought. Floyd is a great defensive fighter...no question. But how he would have fared against the likes of Duran, Hearns, or Hagler is a whole different question. Those fighters, along with guys like Pryor and Leonard, where in a whole different class than the guys Floyd has fought in his career. I'm not saying they would have knocked Floyd out...but i just don't think his resume should be a measuring stick for how would have fared aginst some of the all time greats.

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