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    Chino,
    When you compare how fighters are brought up and and carried along the rankings it's easy to see Cotto fought good competition since early in his career.
    Sure, but not sure if we can compare his resume to ODLH's or Floyd's. I went through his resume before and I just don’t see a comparable opposition to the already-mentioned. ODLH fought some big names from his 14th fight and up. I see some good competition in Cotto's resume but nobody THAT big. When he finally faced someone in his prime and a big name things didn't go as expected even when he faced journeymen. Some fighters come back strong after their first loss. Cotto is young and I can imagine him back on track to get back to his status. Hopefully, we'll see him facing top opposition this time and not just good competition.
    When your fighting former world champs in just your 14th fight that really says something and Bazan after that went on a good wining streak.
    Sure. Bazan had a decent punching power. Had a few losses under his belt when he faced Cotto and recently has been on a loosing streak. Recently lost in Las Vegas by KO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    Chino,
    When you compare how fighters are brought up and and carried along the rankings it's easy to see Cotto fought good competition since early in his career.
    Sure, but not sure if we can compare his resume to ODLH's or Floyd's. I went through his resume before and I just don’t see a comparable opposition to the already-mentioned. ODLH fought some big names from his 14th fight and up. I see some good competition in Cotto's resume but nobody THAT big. When he finally faced someone in his prime and a big name things didn't go as expected even when he faced journeymen. Some fighters come back strong after their first loss. Cotto is young and I can imagine him back on track to get back to his status. Hopefully, we'll see him facing top opposition this time and not just good competition.
    When your fighting former world champs in just your 14th fight that really says something and Bazan after that went on a good wining streak.
    Sure. Bazan had a decent punching power. Had a few losses under his belt when he faced Cotto and recently has been on a loosing streak. Recently lost in Las Vegas by KO.
    Now just look at that, it took the names of ODLH & PBF to be able to put Cottos career inot perspective as far as his accomplishments.
    Doesn't that tell you something?
    Those are 2 ATG and it took their careers to be able to compare it to what Cottos done. That says a lot.

    All I'm saying is he's been fighting 3, 4 times a year every year for the past 4 yrs. or so whether he likes it or not that will take it's toll on him.

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    People have to realize the kind of toll his body has taken with fighting up to 3 times a year. Name a another World Champ who fights as actively and often as Miguel?
    They are VERY few and selected.

    I can't help it but think that Team Cotto will be smart enough to get a fight in his hometown of PR to get his confidence back up. No one too dangerous but someone who he can gain confidence with and beat.

    Fighting someone like Paul or Berto or for that matter anyone whos a live opponent like Collazo, Cintron etc. etc.
    Is as stupid of a managing mistake as one can make, the way the fight went and the way Cotto fought he needs confidence booster and for that he needs the perfect opponent.

    Anyone who thinks otherwise and says Cotto needs to comeback strong and fight guys like Paul, Berto etc. etc. is clearly NOT seeing the big picture here or maybe he is and he just wants to see Cotto loose again.
    Last edited by CutMeMick; 08-13-2008 at 06:33 PM.

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    Now just look at that, it took the names of ODLH & PBF to be able to put Cottos career inot perspective as far as his accomplishments.
    I took those names because people here start threads every day about how ODLH and PBF are nothing compared to Cotto over and over and also to show that Cotto's resume is not really at the same level if we compare names. We can't deny ODLH's resume is admirable regardless of how much ODLH is disliked.
    All I'm saying is he's been fighting 3, 4 times a year every year for the past 4 yrs. or so whether he likes it or not that will take it's toll on him.
    That's right. Quite a busy schedule when he could try 2 fights a year like most big names do. Let's have Cotto get a couple of wins here and there to get his confidence back and bring back his name to where it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    People have to realize the kind of toll his body has taken with fighting up to 3 times a year. Name a another World Champ who fights as actively and often as Miguel?
    They are VERY few and selected.

    I can't help it but think that Team Cotto will be smart enough to get a fight in his hometown of PR to get his confidence back up. No one too dangerous but someone who he can gain confidence with and beat.

    Fighting someone like Paul or Berto or for that matter anyone whos a live opponent like Collazo, Cintron etc. etc.
    Is as stupid of a managing mistake as one can make, the way the fight went and the way Cotto fought he needs confidence booster and for that he needs the perfect opponent.

    Anyone who thinks otherwise and says Cotto needs to comeback strong and fight guys like Paul, Berto etc. etc. is clearly NOT seeing the big picture here or maybe he is and he just wants to see Cotto loose again.
    Agreed here,To many young talents never give them selves the oppurtunity to rebound properly when coming off a big time loss,more often its Networks and management trying to recapture the top glory in one fight when it took numerous battles to obtain that status in the first place!The last thing he needs is to get any where near a rematch with Margarito....Oddly,NOW is when he should be fighting a Alfonso Gomez type

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Oddly,NOW is when he should be fighting a Alfonso Gomez type
    Very true...

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    LuvFightGame,
    Good points but Vasquez/Marquez kept coming back at each other, both going down, etc. Could have gone either way. With Cotto/Margarito, the fight went one way early on and it could be seen that the fight would get stopped sooner or later. With Vasquez/Marquez it kept going back and forth.
    The last thing he needs is to get any where near a rematch with Margarito....Oddly,NOW is when he should be fighting a Alfonso Gomez type
    Spicoli,
    I was about to say that. A "Alfonso Gomez" type of challenger would be exciting to his devoted fans who saw it as one of his greatest victories.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    A "Alfonso Gomez" type of challenger would be exciting to his devoted fans who saw it as one of his greatest victories.
    I take it your just throwing "bait" here trying to see who you rail in...
    I'll tell you like I've told several people.
    Be careful what you wish for, cause it can comeback and bite you in the ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    LuvFightGame,
    Good points but Vasquez/Marquez kept coming back at each other, both going down, etc. Could have gone either way. With Cotto/Margarito, the fight went one way early on and it could be seen that the fight would get stopped sooner or later. With Vasquez/Marquez it kept going back and forth.
    The last thing he needs is to get any where near a rematch with Margarito....Oddly,NOW is when he should be fighting a Alfonso Gomez type
    Spicoli,
    I was about to say that. A "Alfonso Gomez" type of challenger would be exciting to his devoted fans who saw it as one of his greatest victories.
    ......As big of a believer in Margarito that you will find here with a few others but Cotto has my respect when and where it is due.Gomez was a pure showcase fight on a build up card for the big showdown and no one with one ounce of grey matter between they're ears gave willing but limited Gomez a chance
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