Roy Jones: the boxing genius

[rjj tszyu]

So you consider Jones a better fighter P4P than Hearns and Duran? he is good but if Jones was a Welterweight i couldnt see him beating Hearns or if he were a Lightweight lasting 5rds with Duran.

Yes I do. I think that Roy would KO Hearns, too much skill and would be able to dodge his big power shots all night long and he would DO a similar if not better job on Duran as Leonard did in the second fight when he QUIT.

P4P? a rather strange comment seen as a prime Leonard couldnt get away from Hearns jab and right hand. And a Lightweight Duran was an animal i think Roys lack of workrate and lack of chin would be exposed.

Like i said if Roy fought those guys at there best weight. A win over James Toney and a gift over Antonio Tarver doesnt cut it for me im affraid. And again Leonard did things that Jones did and it was always against cans he could get away with it.

First of all Roy had a different style to Leonard. Leonard used to take quite a few shots like he did against Hearns and Duran. Jones wouldn't do this no way, his counter punching and speed would have given Hearns fits. Also I like the way that you bring in the Tarver fight. That happened AFTER Roys venture to HW after which it was clear that Jones destroyed his own body by dropping back down to LHW. Why not use examples like Toney, Virgil Hill, Bernard Hopkins (28 years old), Mike McCallum and Reggie Johnson? At least Roy was in his prime and was still able bodied. To compare 2 men p4p, one who peaked at LHW to a man who peaked at Lightweight is impossible especially in this case because of obvious things such as Roys chin, that could not be counted beacuse he was being hit by a LHW when he was KO'd not a Lightweight and it wasn't until he was totally weight drained that we found out Roy had a weak chin (probably didn't before this). Duran was a great pressure fighter who was active throughout the whole fight and is without doubt one of the all time greats, but look at what Roy did to a good pressure fighter in Paz. I know he was nowhere near the quality of Duran but this is the only example of anything like Durans style I could think of that Roy has faced. Roy Jones is a better fighter P4P than Duran IMO and like Joe Tesatore said when talking about the fact he is sometimes criticised for his fights being too easy "well thats not his fault, he is just too good for his own good".

[Markusdarkus]

Yes I do. I think that Roy would KO Hearns, too much skill and would be able to dodge his big power shots all night long and he would DO a similar if not better job on Duran as Leonard did in the second fight when he QUIT.

P4P? a rather strange comment seen as a prime Leonard couldnt get away from Hearns jab and right hand. And a Lightweight Duran was an animal i think Roys lack of workrate and lack of chin would be exposed.

Like i said if Roy fought those guys at there best weight. A win over James Toney and a gift over Antonio Tarver doesnt cut it for me im affraid. And again Leonard did things that Jones did and it was always against cans he could get away with it.

First of all Roy had a different style to Leonard. Leonard used to take quite a few shots like he did against Hearns and Duran. Jones wouldn't do this no way, his counter punching and speed would have given Hearns fits. Also I like the way that you bring in the Tarver fight. That happened AFTER Roys venture to HW after which it was clear that Jones destroyed his own body by dropping back down to LHW. Why not use examples like Toney, Virgil Hill, Bernard Hopkins (28 years old), Mike McCallum and Reggie Johnson? At least Roy was in his prime and was still able bodied. To compare 2 men p4p, one who peaked at LHW to a man who peaked at Lightweight is impossible especially in this case because of obvious things such as Roys chin, that could not be counted beacuse he was being hit by a LHW when he was KO'd not a Lightweight and it wasn't until he was totally weight drained that we found out Roy had a weak chin (probably didn't before this). Duran was a great pressure fighter who was active throughout the whole fight and is without doubt one of the all time greats, but look at what Roy did to a good pressure fighter in Paz. I know he was nowhere near the quality of Duran but this is the only example of anything like Durans style I could think of that Roy has faced. Roy Jones is a better fighter P4P than Duran IMO and like Joe Tesatore said when talking about the fact he is sometimes criticised for his fights being too easy "well thats not his fault, he is just too good for his own good".

Difference is Duran proved this by constantly fighting the best fighter his resume is superb Roys compared... well, thats all im gonna say.. well..

We will never know how good Roy was because he only really fought two elite fighters in Toney and Tarver and he lost one. Hopkins was a good win but Hopkins at 38 would obliterate Hopkins of 28.

Jones was a great fighter very skilled but against who? Roy is the best fighter in the last 15yrs imo but i thinl Sugar Ray Tommy Hears and Roberto Duran all beat him p4p.