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    Default Re: Haye 16st 9lbs

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
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    Seen as Haye porbably has the hardest P4P punch people will talk about it. As for being able to knock a building down... no, but no-one takes a flush Haymaker no-one.

    IN THE CRUISERWEIGHT DIVISION !!!
    Well said...People tend to forget that a punch from a bonafied HW fighter (225-240lbs)...That can crack just a bit is one hell of a thing to absorb.....The whole with speed comes power theory has its limits.....

    It is not that speed makes you hit harder it is the fact that you can not prepare for what you can not see coming.....Making the punch that you don't see having a higher effect...With that being said....

    At HW you need to have HW power to keep that theory intact....

    A shot from a guy who weighs 240lbs at full force will rock you a hell of a lot harder then a guy who is 195-200lbs normally....

    Also Haye (And his followers) need to remember that Haye has never felt REAL: HW power and Wlad certainly has REAL HW power.....

    Manny will make a game plan suited for Haye if it ever happens...All Wlad has to do is follow it....Wlad is his own worst enemy at times because he anticipates punches or gets punch shy a bit.....That is a no no....But if Wlad does not think he has anything to fear from Hayes shots then he will stand up and fight him...I don't care how much the "Hayemaker" is primed to land if he stands in front of Wlad for one exchange he will find out why he was the cruiserweight chamiopn and not the HW champ in the first place.....


    After he wins the belt who does he have to face?.....Are we going to pretend he can stand up to the power of Peter, McCline, even the aging slow punching David Tua would spark him if he lands......

    Haye is no Evander Holyfield....He is not the next great HW

    And people there you have it
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    Default Re: Haye 16st 9lbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
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    You guy's are hilarious. OOh AHH Haye looks huge. What does looking good have anything to do in this sport absolutely NOTHING !!!. Remember bodybuilding and boxing are 2 totally different things. Wlad will test the one thing that matters in this sport his jaw. Then we will see if any of that muscle matters.

    I don't hate Haye. I am just sick of this guy being built up like he will knock a building down with one punch.

    Seen as Haye porbably has the hardest P4P punch people will talk about it. As for being able to knock a building down... no, but no-one takes a flush Haymaker no-one.
    Edwin Valero may argue that point.
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    Default Re: Haye 16st 9lbs

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
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    You guy's are hilarious. OOh AHH Haye looks huge. What does looking good have anything to do in this sport absolutely NOTHING !!!. Remember bodybuilding and boxing are 2 totally different things. Wlad will test the one thing that matters in this sport his jaw. Then we will see if any of that muscle matters.

    I don't hate Haye. I am just sick of this guy being built up like he will knock a building down with one punch.

    Seen as Haye porbably has the hardest P4P punch people will talk about it. As for being able to knock a building down... no, but no-one takes a flush Haymaker no-one.
    Edwin Valero may argue that point.
    Agreed...I also think P4P Pacquiao is a more dangerous puncher.....

    People tend to forget the names on Hayes KO resume are no world beaters...and those most know are wayy past best...His biggest wins are Mormeck and Enzo....Who the F*** has Enzo ever beaten to be considered anything other then just another fighter....

    It may just be me but Haye has done little to impress me so far other then a few decent performances and a KO list of local bar drunks
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
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    Seen as Haye porbably has the hardest P4P punch people will talk about it. As for being able to knock a building down... no, but no-one takes a flush Haymaker no-one.
    Edwin Valero may argue that point.
    Agreed...I also think P4P Pacquiao is a more dangerous puncher.....

    People tend to forget the names on Hayes KO resume are no world beaters...and those most know are wayy past best...His biggest wins are Mormeck and Enzo....Who the F*** has Enzo ever beaten to be considered anything other then just another fighter....

    It may just be me but Haye has done little to impress me so far other then a few decent performances and a KO list of local bar drunks

    Credit where credit is due, he did everything he needed to in the CW division, he does make for entertaining fights, but anyone saying he has done anything at HW is certainly showing their fanboyism. At HW he is an unknown quantity. Haye needs to fight Arreola, or someone of that level.

    Arreola is rated #7 by the IBF and #4 by the WBO which are the two straps that Wladdy holds. Arreola also holds the #10 spot on the ring list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    he does make for entertaining fights.
    Hmmm

    Oh yeah, Abdul was a real smash bang affair

    Wasnt that the figfht where he panicked about going the distance and he did it by not throwing any punches

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
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    he does make for entertaining fights.
    Hmmm

    Oh yeah, Abdul was a real smash bang affair

    Wasnt that the figfht where he panicked about going the distance and he did it by not throwing any punches
    Haye hit him with everything. Abdoul has an iron chin.

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    Default Re: Haye 16st 9lbs

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    he does make for entertaining fights.
    Hmmm

    Oh yeah, Abdul was a real smash bang affair

    Wasnt that the figfht where he panicked about going the distance and he did it by not throwing any punches
    I would say that Haye-Mormeck was one of the most exciting Cruiserweight fights in recent memory. I'm not a fan of Haye, but I'll watch his fights because he is exciting to watch the fact that he has
    that much power and also has the detrement of a weak chin makes it
    all that much more interesting. He did everything he could against Ishmail, you can't rely on knocking everyone out.

    So who in the Cruiserweight or Heavyweight division does bring the excitement level you are talking about, what is the standard here you are disputing?
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    Default Re: Haye 16st 9lbs

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post


    Seen as Haye porbably has the hardest P4P punch people will talk about it. As for being able to knock a building down... no, but no-one takes a flush Haymaker no-one.
    Edwin Valero may argue that point.
    Agreed...I also think P4P Pacquiao is a more dangerous puncher.....

    People tend to forget the names on Hayes KO resume are no world beaters...and those most know are wayy past best...His biggest wins are Mormeck and Enzo....Who the F*** has Enzo ever beaten to be considered anything other then just another fighter....

    It may just be me but Haye has done little to impress me so far other then a few decent performances and a KO list of local bar drunks

    {acquaio is not a more dangerous puncher than Haye thats a crazy statement. And Hayes resume for a guy with 21fights is superb.

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    Default Re: Haye 16st 9lbs

    Ok I guess now I see a reason people can't stand Haye.

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    Default Re: Haye 16st 9lbs

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    Ok I guess now I see a reason people can't stand Haye.

    Dont start stupid shit.

    Pacquaio is not a more dangerous puncher than Haye when was the last time you see him blast someone with one shot?

    And tell me an active fighter that has fought better comp than Haye after 21 fights?

    Try to back yourself up, the old the board will disagree so i will now claim this guy is a hugger trick...... fails everytime.

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