Haye 16st 9lbs

[ross]

He has obviously been lifting weights but if he was big anyway, why not just start sparring lots of heavys getting used to their strength and power rather than make himself look bigger.

He will still struggle with a heavys natural core strength and will still be surprised by their power, if he fought either Toney or Rahman he will struggle, Toney has the skill to make him look a novice and Rahman has the strength to put him in his shell, if little Fragomeni can the heavys can.

Rahman didnt take a beating in his last fight, he tried getting a win the easy way but it was turned to a no contest so still holds a high ranking which is why I think Haye will be fighting Hasim still.

Haye still has a little neck and head

[Fenster]

How the hell did he ever get down to 200 pounds

He's a beast

Still don't rate him though

I remember from a few years ago you never rated Haye.. but surely since then he must have impressed you a bit by becoming the undisputed cruiser champ? Sparking Mormeck in his backyard was arguably more impressive a win than Calzaghe beating Kessler, considering the circumstances

[ross]

NO WAY!!

Regardless of where the bouts were held, Joe beat a fighter nearly 10 years younger who had unified belts and was undefeated.

Haye beat someone who was nearly 10 years older and had recently been sparked

I thought his win over Enzo meant more than the win over Mormeck

[piye]

You have to rate Haye he's exciting and will fight anyone! never understand all of the people who discredit fighters for ducking but then hate them for calling opponents out! confusing as hell.

[Fenster]

NO WAY!!

Regardless of where the bouts were held, Joe beat a fighter nearly 10 years younger who had unified belts and was undefeated.

Haye beat someone who was nearly 10 years older and had recently been sparked

I thought his win over Enzo meant more than the win over Mormeck

Well.. I did say arguably

Calzaghe-Kessler was a more MEANINGFUL fight, for sure.

But Calzaghe was ALREADY an established proven champion. Losing to Kessler could have been easily explained as a changing of the guard. Time caught up with oldman past his best.

Haye's whole future career was on the line against Mormeck. A loss would have set him back MILES. Would Haye have all the heavyweight hoopla he currently has if Mormeck had beaten him? Of course not.

Calzaghe was the favourite. Haye was the underdog.

Calzaghe had home advantage. Haye was in the other guys backyard.

(Enzo was always gonna be easier for Haye to KO than Mormeck - regardless of age )

[BIG H]

How the hell did he ever get down to 200 pounds

He's a beast

Still don't rate him though

I remember from a few years ago you never rated Haye.. but surely since then he must have impressed you a bit by becoming the undisputed cruiser champ?

I just think he's a bit one dimensional, if he hits one of the big boys on the button and they don't go down, what's his next move? he aint gonna jab and move.

[Plopeater]

How the hell did he ever get down to 200 pounds

He's a beast

Still don't rate him though

I remember from a few years ago you never rated Haye.. but surely since then he must have impressed you a bit by becoming the undisputed cruiser champ?

I just think he's a bit one dimensional, if he hits one of the big boys on the button and they don't go down, what's his next move? he aint gonna jab and move.

But they will eventually

[Fenster]

How the hell did he ever get down to 200 pounds

He's a beast

Still don't rate him though

I remember from a few years ago you never rated Haye.. but surely since then he must have impressed you a bit by becoming the undisputed cruiser champ?

I just think he's a bit one dimensional, if he hits one of the big boys on the button and they don't go down, what's his next move? he aint gonna jab and move.

To hit them harder - knowing Haye

[The Fightfan]

You guy's are hilarious. OOh AHH Haye looks huge. What does looking good have anything to do in this sport absolutely NOTHING !!!. Remember bodybuilding and boxing are 2 totally different things. Wlad will test the one thing that matters in this sport his jaw. Then we will see if any of that muscle matters.

I don't hate Haye. I am just sick of this guy being built up like he will knock a building down with one punch.

[GAME]

Haye looks good. Im convinced he does well at heavyweight . not cuz I think he is amazingly great or anything but I think his speed and the poor heavyweight division is a good mix

[Taeth]

Poor Wlad? Why? Because he won't get the real test he was hoping for?

[amat]

He looks pretty good. Bodybuilding may have nothing to do with the sport but it will be refreshing to see a heavyweight who actually has some definition. Unfortunately he can't add muscles in his chin, and anyone saying poor Wlad is pretty sadly mistaken. I'm excited to see it happen.

Rahman wouldn't stand anything but a puncher's chance against Haye imo. To fast and Rahman is fighting in slow motion these days.

[El Kabong]

Haye can be built like he's been chiseled out of stone it doesn't mean he can take what Wlad is bringing to the table.

Audley Harrison looked like he was in shape too

[Markusdarkus]

You guy's are hilarious. OOh AHH Haye looks huge. What does looking good have anything to do in this sport absolutely NOTHING !!!. Remember bodybuilding and boxing are 2 totally different things. Wlad will test the one thing that matters in this sport his jaw. Then we will see if any of that muscle matters.

I don't hate Haye. I am just sick of this guy being built up like he will knock a building down with one punch.

Seen as Haye porbably has the hardest P4P punch people will talk about it. As for being able to knock a building down... no, but no-one takes a flush Haymaker no-one.

[rjj tszyu]

He'll be around 16st flat come fight time. I'm really looking forward to it and I hope he brings some much needed life to the heavys.