If Usain Bolt Wins the 200m As Convincingly as the 100m...

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I think not. Math says no. Bilbo offers a good explanation as to why. Plus consider how many times the world record for 100 and 200m has been broken, and likely how much more it will be broken. How soon until someone breaks Phelps precedent setting performance? Can't see it happening any time soon. Plus he will be back in 4 years most likely also.

The 200m is rarely broken. It last stood for 12 years.

[BIG H]

Bilbo the 100 metres is just a straight sprint, the 200 metres requires endurance aswell. There is more likelyhood of the greatest 200m runner also being a 400m runner, i.e Michael Johnson, very rarely has the greatest 200m runner being a 100m runner. Only Carl Lewis, and Usain Bolt througn history have been the best at both. Linford Christie, Donovan Bailey, Maurice Green etc etc (Olympic champions at 100m) were never great 200m runners.

Hard to say whose achievement is bigger between Phelps and Bolt, but recovery time and many other factors allow a swimmer to do mumerous events. I bet you anything Bolt goes down a sthe story of this olympics more than Phelps does

[Scrap]

At the end of the day, who would you sooner watch. If the truth is told its Bolt, why because He did something that inspires.

[Kev]

At the end of the day, who would you sooner watch. If the truth is told its Bolt, why because He did something that inspires.

I think that's really a matter of subjective opinion though. Winning 8 Olympic Golds out of 8 events is every bit as inspiring imo, although Bolt did smash two world records which Phelps didn't do.

Both acheivements are incredible imo.

If you mean that running is more inspiring than swimming though I don't really agree.

They are both demanding events, one to see who is the fastest on land, the other to see who is the fastest on water. One is not more inspiring than the other except in a subjective way depending on your own preference.

If anything I think Phelps is a victim of his own success. He has become so utterly dominant that people don't regard his truimph as a big deal, but really to defeat the best in the world in 8 seperate events in one Olympic games is pretty damn inspiring stuff.

Phelps is even more dominant in his sport than Bolt is in his, at least for now.

[BIG H]

At the end of the day, who would you sooner watch. If the truth is told its Bolt, why because He did something that inspires.

Phelps is even more dominant in his sport than Bolt is in his,

Nobody got within 1 hundreth of a second of Bolt

[Scrap]

Where ever you live rich or poor you can run its an International and Interational, Swimming isnt.

[Kev]

Where ever you live rich or poor you can run its an International and Interational, Swimming isnt.

Considering the earth is 75% water I don't really understand that statement.

Sure there arn't swimming pools and proper training coaches everywhere, but are there running tracks and proper coaches everywhere either?

It's actually more a genetic thing imo, blacks due to a higher percentage muscle than whites and more fast twitch fibres in their legs make better sprinters than whites, who with slightly higher bodyfat ratios and different body composition make for better swimmers.

I'm sure socialogical factors play a role but race and genetics are the biggest determining factors imo, although in todays politically correct world you arn't supposed to say so.

[Kev]

At the end of the day, who would you sooner watch. If the truth is told its Bolt, why because He did something that inspires.

Phelps is even more dominant in his sport than Bolt is in his,

Nobody got within 1 hundreth of a second of Bolt

That was Phelp's worst result though

Nobody else came with 1 hundreth of a second of Phelps in the other 7

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I think that's really a matter of subjective opinion though. Winning 8 Olympic Golds out of 8 events is every bit as inspiring imo, although Bolt did smash two world records which Phelps didn't do.

Both acheivements are incredible imo.

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I think Phelps actually broke 8 world records during the Olympics !

[amat]

It was 7 world records Phelps had I believe but I don't know whether to take those with a grain of salt or not because ever since this LRZ racer suit came out like 100 world records have fallen in the pool. And not a single one of those records was as meaningful as the 100m and as untouchable as the 200m.

[RP33]

i say bolt doesn't even come close to phelps.. he is simply 2/8's of phelps accomplishments..

amat, you have summed up how sprinting is more than just running in a straight line, but you may be forgetting how tiring and straining swimming is.. i'd consider myself in pretty good shape, prob 7-8% body fat, and i run just about every day, and when i go to my campus's pool.. if i do one lap at almost full speed i am breathing real heavy.. Swimming is much more physically demanding than running, simply because it involves the whole body, and also water is far more resistant than air.. FAR more..

when you compare bolt to the other runners and saying that he was so far ahead of them and such, phelps was the same way.. regardless of genetics.

to diminish anything phelps has done, because a sprinter won the 100m and 200m convincingly is silly.. At the same time, i cannot praise bolt anymore for his feat, but he would have to win 4-5 more races individually, and then run in some relay races to come close to phelps..

[CutMeMick]

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I think Phelps actually broke 8 world records during the Olympics !

You beat me to it I just checked and in all 8 events he participated in new records were set.

[RP33]

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I think Phelps actually broke 8 world records during the Olympics !

You beat me to it I just checked and in all 8 events he participated in new records were set.

i believe 7 of 8 were world records.. his 7th of 8 race may have only been an olympic record..

[CutMeMick]

I think 1 thing we can all agree on here is that swimming if by far the best type of excersize that you can do that we know. I'm sure amat knows that too. I think amat was trying to state his case as to why he feels running is also a tough excersize to do...

[Kev]

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I think Phelps actually broke 8 world records during the Olympics !

Wow didn't realise, then there really is no contest, Phelps is the man of the Olympics in my opinion.

I don't know anything about the suit that Amat talks about but I really don't see how anyone can discredit Phelp's achievements based on the trunks used any more than you can discredit Bolt because of the trainers he wore?

And what about sports like cycling, sailing, rowing etc, doesn't the equipment they use get improved over time?

Improvements are sought in every field I'm sure, training, nutrition, equipment, clothing, these wll be constantly improved in every single discipline so I'm sure the suit makes no difference.

It's not like he had flippers on and a fin on his back