Greatest trainers?

[TommyGunn_]

Angelo is probably the GOAT IMO.

[CutMeMick]

Angelo is probably the GOAT IMO.

I don't think it's that easy to call.

I think theres a lot of ATG trainers but to distinguish just 1....

I mean take Chickie Ferrera for example I think he's VASTLY underrated. He def. has an arguement as the GOAT.

[Preme]

Angelo is probably the GOAT IMO.

What to you makes angelo the GOT?

what did he, or could he do that made good fighters great?

[TommyGunn_]

Angelo is probably the GOAT IMO.

I don't think it's that easy to call.

I think theres a lot of ATG trainers but to distinguish just 1....

I mean take Chickie Ferrera for example I think he's VASTLY underrated. He def. has an arguement as the GOAT.

The two names of Ali and SRL cant be argued with IMO. Thats two top 10 fighters in history. Im not sure anyone else has that.

I must check.

[CutMeMick]

Angelo is probably the GOAT IMO.

I don't think it's that easy to call.

I think theres a lot of ATG trainers but to distinguish just 1....

I mean take Chickie Ferrera for example I think he's VASTLY underrated. He def. has an arguement as the GOAT.

The two names of Ali and SRL cant be argued with IMO. Thats two top 10 fighters in history. Im not sure anyone else has that.

I must check.

Well then if that's your judgement then surely Pee Wee Beale tops that having trained Sugar Ray Robinson & Henry Armstrong.
That's argueably #1 & #2 P4P all time.

[Preme]

Angelo is probably the GOAT IMO.

I don't think it's that easy to call.

I think theres a lot of ATG trainers but to distinguish just 1....

I mean take Chickie Ferrera for example I think he's VASTLY underrated. He def. has an arguement as the GOAT.

The two names of Ali and SRL cant be argued with IMO. Thats two top 10 fighters in history. Im not sure anyone else has that.

I must check.

thought pepe careera trained SRL?

angelo trained carmen (basilio)

[CutMeMick]

I don't think it's that easy to call.

I think theres a lot of ATG trainers but to distinguish just 1....

I mean take Chickie Ferrera for example I think he's VASTLY underrated. He def. has an arguement as the GOAT.

The two names of Ali and SRL cant be argued with IMO. Thats two top 10 fighters in history. Im not sure anyone else has that.

I must check.

thought pepe careera trained SRL?

angelo trained carmen (basilio)

Preme, you mean Pepe Correa.
Correa also trained: Lennox, Duran and Simon Brown.
You are right he did train SRL at one point.

But Angelo was SRL pro trainer since the beggining of his career.

[SorceryatCaesar]

angelo came in to 'finish' leonard just before his bouts.

dave jacobs took him as a raw 14-year-old and taught him everything. jacobs was there while dundee came in and added the finishing touches.



what about freddie roach?

[SigmaMu]

No doubt it was Yoda Dundee and Crip D'Amato

[rjj tszyu]

Emanuel steward , you gotta be kidding. Thank god he had tommy hearns, he did a great job with Naseem, Oscar?, the list goes on, hes so over rated.And once you throw in the tv job, there is total lack of focus.
When did he last do anything with all the creme de la creme talent he was given.
You been watching too much TV.

He had Lewis blowing out good opponents when he was training him.........other than that I can't really think.

He also worked with McClellan...

And McCallum. I think he has brought the best work out of Wlad too. Also he made Holyfield look rejuvinated for Bowe II. I do rate him very highly but some people just don't work well together, thats why some people didn't have the same success as others under Manny.

[rjj tszyu]

I don't think it's that easy to call.

I think theres a lot of ATG trainers but to distinguish just 1....

I mean take Chickie Ferrera for example I think he's VASTLY underrated. He def. has an arguement as the GOAT.

The two names of Ali and SRL cant be argued with IMO. Thats two top 10 fighters in history. Im not sure anyone else has that.

I must check.

Well then if that's your judgement then surely Pee Wee Beale tops that having trained Sugar Ray Robinson & Henry Armstrong.
That's argueably #1 & #2 P4P all time.

Well you learn something new everyday. I didn't know he trained both. I do rate them 1 and 2 p4p of all time see this old thread I posted when I first signed up http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...-all-time.html

[Pavlik]

Not the greatest, definitely one of the best IMO.
Freddie Roach for transforming Pacquiao into what he is today.
The Filipino people is forever thankful for this man's kindness/loyalty to Manny.

[porkypara]

I don't think it's that easy to call.

I think theres a lot of ATG trainers but to distinguish just 1....

I mean take Chickie Ferrera for example I think he's VASTLY underrated. He def. has an arguement as the GOAT.

The two names of Ali and SRL cant be argued with IMO. Thats two top 10 fighters in history. Im not sure anyone else has that.

I must check.

thought pepe careera trained SRL?

angelo trained carmen (basilio)

Think Pepe trained him after the Hagler fight.

[SorceryatCaesar]

steward had hilmer kenty.

and milton mccrory.

[SorceryatCaesar]

From Sports Illustrated, December 8, 1980:

WHERE WERE THEY?
Do trainers really train fighters anymore? Lost in all the furor over Roberto Duran 's famous bellyache (page 24) are the performances of Ray Arcel and Freddie Brown , whose job it was to get Duran ready for the biggest fight of his career. Where were they when Duran reached for that extra steak, when he gulped his orange juice? How could they have let him go through such a severe weight-reduction regimen so close to fight time and then blow himself up hours before the bell sounded? Where was that steady hand on the wrist...? "No, Roberto, no more...." Once upon a time trainers used to lock themselves in with their warriors for days before a big fight. They'd monitor every morsel of food that crossed the table, every whiff of cigarette smoke that entered the room.
Where was the famous Angelo Dundee when Muhammad Ali was popping all those thyroid pills and burning the weight off so drastically before he went into the Larry Holmes fight a zombie? And how about the first Leon Spinks fight in 1978? Ali admitted he hadn't trained for that one, but you wouldn't have known it from his trainer. At Ali 's workout two days before the bout, Dundee could be heard telling a few skeptical writers, " Ali 's sharp as a razor for this one. I've never seen him so sharp."