Hopkins Run In?

[njackets]

Yeah B-hop is the man. The most impressive thing is Bernard has been competative in all of those fights, and has won most of them. Even in defeat it's razor thin and could go both ways. Like stated above many people think he even won all of them.

Hopkins & Hagler the two best middleweight ever

Monzon and Robinson??

[southakron314]

Yeah B-hop is the man. The most impressive thing is Bernard has been competative in all of those fights, and has won most of them. Even in defeat it's razor thin and could go both ways. Like stated above many people think he even won all of them.

Hopkins & Hagler the two best middleweight ever

Monzon and Robinson??

Greb - Robinson

[Preme]

the sad truth about nard in my opinion is he left it way to late....

He has a lot of names on his resume of whom he has fought, but take away the name and base it on threat and there are soly two, both of whom he had very little option of fighting...

First a green (in fairness as was hopkins) but unlike roy he wasn't one handed. He lost.

Then Joe...

Every other name he fought was a name only, and no real threat, sorry.

[TommyGunn_]

Hopkins resume is overated.

His 3 best wins are over fighters much smaller....Tarver was a good legit win though.

If Bhops record is overrated, whose isnt?

That still doesn't get away from the fact that 3 of his best wins have came against fighters much smaller.

The name are nice to have but they are not GREAT wins.

[Preme]

Hopkins resume is overated.

His 3 best wins are over fighters much smaller....Tarver was a good legit win though.

If Bhops record is overrated, whose isnt?

That still doesn't get away from the fact that 3 of his best wins have came against fighters much smaller.

The name are nice to have but they are not GREAT wins.

i will agree with you to a point...

BUT there realy isnt a fighter outside heavy wou could stay in a devision to dominate it and had a great win record...

Sure i think hopkins should of left middle after he beat tito to fight names, as the devision was dead... and i will always hold that against him when i think about where he lays in all time, personaly i think he stayed there knowing it was dead and he had it easy...

but a fighter does have the right to stay and set records in the weight the rule in...

i argue with my self over this topic lol

[CountryBoy]

Over the last 5 years after he fights Pavlik will look like this........ Robert Allan,Oscar De La Hoya,Howard Eastman,Jermain Taylor twice,Antonio Tarver,Winky Wright,Joe Calzaghe,Kelly Pavlik when nearly every other Boxers of his age has retired!!

U got to respect that?! Has any other Boxer had a harder run in than that over the last 5 years?? Could proberbly make a case for Pac.

Holyfield for sure and Pac-man is catching up

[rjj tszyu]

Hopkins resume is overated.

His 3 best wins are over fighters much smaller....Tarver was a good legit win though.

If Bhops record is overrated, whose isnt?

That still doesn't get away from the fact that 3 of his best wins have came against fighters much smaller.

The name are nice to have but they are not GREAT wins.

Ok then fair enough but who are the biggest Ws on Haglers list? Duran and Hearns IMO and neither were natural Middleweights.

[Beanflicker]

Ok, to those people who say his best wins are against guys much smaller: GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR BOOTY.

Trinidad was coming off of a TOTAL DESTRUCTION of a huge Middleweight in William Joppy before fighting Bhop, so for those of you who say he was no threat you know NOTHING about boxing.

Bernard Hopkins is an absolute SCIENTIST in the ring. He's not the most exciting fighter but "exciting" and "great fighter" do not mean the same thing. He knew every trick in the book and he is one of the hardest guys to fight in boxing history because he takes guys out of their game and drags them into deep water. IMO the #3 MW of all time behind Hagler and Monzon (and YES, ahead of SRR who was better at WW)

[ElTerribleMorales]

Yeah B-hop is the man. The most impressive thing is Bernard has been competative in all of those fights, and has won most of them. Even in defeat it's razor thin and could go both ways. Like stated above many people think he even won all of them.

Hopkins & Hagler the two best middleweight ever

I'd say it's a 3 way tie, Hopkins, Hagler, & Monzon

[njackets]

If Bhops record is overrated, whose isnt?

That still doesn't get away from the fact that 3 of his best wins have came against fighters much smaller.

The name are nice to have but they are not GREAT wins.

i will agree with you to a point...

BUT there realy isnt a fighter outside heavy wou could stay in a devision to dominate it and had a great win record...

Sure i think hopkins should of left middle after he beat tito to fight names, as the devision was dead... and i will always hold that against him when i think about where he lays in all time, personaly i think he stayed there knowing it was dead and he had it easy...

but a fighter does have the right to stay and set records in the weight the rule in...

i argue with my self over this topic lol

From what I remember there wasn't much happening in the Divs infront of him,apart from RJJ,as much as B Hop called him out,and for all the live link ups they did between the 2 on HBO or whatever it was,the fight never came off.All the name fighters were in the Divs below,I cant really begrudge him staying at MW.

[kid_thunder]

i meet hopkins and he is an asshole

[TommyGunn_]

If Bhops record is overrated, whose isnt?

That still doesn't get away from the fact that 3 of his best wins have came against fighters much smaller.

The name are nice to have but they are not GREAT wins.

i will agree with you to a point...

BUT there realy isnt a fighter outside heavy wou could stay in a devision to dominate it and had a great win record...

Sure i think hopkins should of left middle after he beat tito to fight names, as the devision was dead... and i will always hold that against him when i think about where he lays in all time, personaly i think he stayed there knowing it was dead and he had it easy...

but a fighter does have the right to stay and set records in the weight the rule in...

i argue with my self over this topic lol

He did dominate, no doubt. But there was actualy another fighter below HW dominating his weight. Joe C.

Ok, to those people who say his best wins are against guys much smaller: GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR BOOTY.

Trinidad was coming off of a TOTAL DESTRUCTION of a huge Middleweight in William Joppy before fighting Bhop, so for those of you who say he was no threat you know NOTHING about boxing.

Bernard Hopkins is an absolute SCIENTIST in the ring. He's not the most exciting fighter but "exciting" and "great fighter" do not mean the same thing. He knew every trick in the book and he is one of the hardest guys to fight in boxing history because he takes guys out of their game and drags them into deep water. IMO the #3 MW of all time behind Hagler and Monzon (and YES, ahead of SRR who was better at WW)

Joppy was a B- fighter at best who held a title in a weak division. Anytime he stepped up in class he was soundly beaten.

He wasn't the biggest of 160 guys either (like your stating).

Hopkins is very strong at 175 and was an absolute monster down at 160...So basicaly we had a strong light heavyweight going against a former WW in that one. Dont make it something it wasn't.

i meet hopkins and he is an asshole

You should have hooked him Andrew.

[Trainer Monkey]

Hopkins resume is overated.

His 3 best wins are over fighters much smaller....Tarver was a good legit win though.

If Bhops record is overrated, whose isnt?

That still doesn't get away from the fact that 3 of his best wins have came against fighters much smaller.

The name are nice to have but they are not GREAT wins.

Wait,he beat,not just beat,whupped Antonio Tarver when nobody thought he could
He whupped Tito Trinidad at the very top of his game,when noone thought he could,and remember Tito wasnt that undersized,he did have a piece of the belt coming in
He whupped all three of the middle weight champions

[TommyGunn_]

If Bhops record is overrated, whose isnt?

That still doesn't get away from the fact that 3 of his best wins have came against fighters much smaller.

The name are nice to have but they are not GREAT wins.

Wait,he beat,not just beat,whupped Antonio Tarver when nobody thought he could
He whupped Tito Trinidad at the very top of his game,when noone thought he could,and remember Tito wasnt that undersized,he did have a piece of the belt coming in
He whupped all three of the middle weight champions

Tarvers got nothing to do with his 160 run.

Tito was also bulied and schooled by Winky at 160...He was NOT a 160 guy, his natural weights were 147/154. Winning a title against a lesser fighter at a higher weight does not mean shit. My boy Hatton done the same at 147 but we all know he's not a 147 guy.

[Beanflicker]

William Joppy was built like Kenny Norton at Middleweight, he was strong as hell and could hit like a mule. So for Trinidad to take him out so easily definatly meant something. NO ONE ever did that to William Joppy and no one has since. Bute put a beating on him and dominated him but it was no where near as destructive.