Simulated Pavlik Calzaghe fight. here is the result.

[C-Lo]

Sorry I haven't replied in a while. I was at an open gym.

I'm totally agreeing with ssss. To compare Calzaghe and Pavlik's records as a whole would be somewhat foolish to do right now considering Pavlik's career is starting to take off while Calzaghe is towards the end. In terms of their best wins, I think Pavlik has the edge. Taylor and Miranda are much better wins than Bernard Hopkins (at this stage) and Kessler. If Pavlik beats Hopkins as well what would that do to the argument? Hopkins was easier to beat because he already lost to Calzaghe? I don't think so. I am just waiting to see what the reasoning will be if Pavlik wins. Joe is making big moves now, but Pavlik is making big moves as well MUCH EARLIER in his career.

This is my opinion and I respect the ones of those who back Calzaghe. But I just don't see much difference with their level of opponents. Just because someone holds a belt doesn't mean all that much. People know who the "real" champions are...

[CFH]

Sorry I haven't replied in a while. I was at an open gym.

I'm totally agreeing with ssss. To compare Calzaghe and Pavlik's records as a whole would be somewhat foolish to do right now considering Pavlik's career is starting to take off while Calzaghe is towards the end. In terms of their best wins, I think Pavlik has the edge. Taylor and Miranda are much better wins than Bernard Hopkins (at this stage) and Kessler. If Pavlik beats Hopkins as well what would that do to the argument? Hopkins was easier to beat because he already lost to Calzaghe? I don't think so. I am just waiting to see what the reasoning will be if Pavlik wins. Joe is making big moves now, but Pavlik is making big moves as well MUCH EARLIER in his career.

This is my opinion and I respect the ones of those who back Calzaghe. But I just don't see much difference with their level of opponents. Just because someone holds a belt doesn't mean all that much. People know who the "real" champions are...

I agree with this for the most part. The only place I disagree is that I think Kessler is a much better scalp to have than Miranda. Taylor and Hopkins are pretty much a wash as far as I'm concerned. Their fights in no way proved who the better man was.