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I'm not saying he's a bad trainer but some of Teddy Atlas' corner tactics are questionable!

I thought he done well in the corner the night Moorer won the hw title(if that is what you are refering to),he brought the best out of his fighter.thats what being a good trainer is all about.
I thought Atlas said the right things, but watching the fight in full, Moorer didn't really listen. In the rounds following his speeches, Moorer slept-walked again. I think Moorer was extra cautious because of the 2nd round KD, and knew how dangerous Holyfield could be when you hurt him.

Atlas is ridiculously overrated as a trainer. His track record isn't impressive. He gets this reputation as a great motivator, but I haven't seen it from his fighters. Moorer still slept-walked after Atlas begged him to fight harder.

Watching Moorer with Steward earlier, against Cooper, you saw him fight with heart and passion. Later on, in the Holyfield rematch, with Roach in the corner, Moorer fought his heart out. I didn't see this passion with Atlas.

Shannon Briggs basically fell apart with Atlas in the corner when he fought Darroll Wilson. It was with another trainer, when Briggs showed a ton of heart and desire when he lost to Lennox Lewis.

Aaron Snowell did a terrible job in Tokyo, but afterwards, he became a solid trainer. He trained Frankie Randall to his win over J.C. Chavez. He trained Julian Jackson to some title wins. He trained Tim Austin and had good success there.

Among former Mike Tyson trainers, it seems that Snowell gets the worst rap, while people always talk about how Tyson should've gotten back with Kevin Rooney (I agree, but it wasn't that Rooney was that good, it was just good chemistry), and Atlas gets too much credit for his one shining moment (which is overdramatized anyway).

Snowell has had the best success out of the 3, as he's done well with numerous fighters.

As to the subject, Oscar Suarez is pretty crappy.