Has Manfredo's showing and seemingly new hunger changed any minds?

[donnydarkoIRL]

Manfredo-Duddy would be GREAT to see....if Pete's fat ass could make 160 again.


Hell even Manfredo-Lee would be a decent fight to make soon (once Lee gets his shit together)

I'd like to see him fight Allan Green or Andre Ward to be honest

Duddy's gunning for 154 now.

Lee would destroy Peter.
5'9" vs. 6'2"

I would agree, but who would have a thought that Lee would lose to Vera? Who knows what the KO did to his confidence. Lee had 3 inches on Vera, too. I know Duddy is gunning for 154, but at some point Manfredo/Duddy is going to happen a some point, even if it's a few years down the road. It will be a huge fight in New England. They both have big fan bases here and the Irish vs Italy angle always plays well.

Andy reckons that he wasn't fit....
Said he never felt right in that fight.
Could be ovrtraining or too many fights?

I've said Duddy Manfredo for a long time....It could be a very entertaining fight, but both would be best at 154.

[El Kabong]

I think Andy Lee needs some more weight on him being 6'2-6'3 and only being 160 and a SKINNY 160 at that can't help his power or stamina.

[donnydarkoIRL]

I think Andy Lee needs some more weight on him being 6'2-6'3 and only being 160 and a SKINNY 160 at that can't help his power or stamina.

I think he's skinny also and very skinny, but I feel he needs to develop more in terms of defense before heading toward heavy hitters.

[El Kabong]

Very true...this isn't the amatuers, you have to hit and not get hit and Andy just eats those right hands all day long, he's never going to last doing that. I definently see the upside to him and the potential but he's got to stop taking so much punishment...there's no reason for a fighter who is that tall and has as good of a jab as he does to get busted up like he does. He also needs an uppercut to keep fighters from getting on the inside

[donnydarkoIRL]

Very true...this isn't the amatuers, you have to hit and not get hit and Andy just eats those right hands all day long, he's never going to last doing that. I definently see the upside to him and the potential but he's got to stop taking so much punishment...there's no reason for a fighter who is that tall and has as good of a jab as he does to get busted up like he does. He also needs an uppercut to keep fighters from getting on the inside

Unusual for a southpaw, a skillful southpaw to not have developed a watchful eye for the straight right isn't it?

He's cutting very easily when guys get in on him, so dead right, he needs that uppercut, he would have finished Gibbs in the 5th when he had him rocked. All he needed was an uppercut.

[El Kabong]

I think if Lee progresses he'll do better work at 168 after adding some muscle mass. His legs are way too skinny as well, if he worked on them he could be a bigger puncher IMO.

He's got a great offensive arsenal but that defense is just beyond horrible. Manny Steward should be able to fix him up what with the fighters he has to spar against on a regular basis.

[donnydarkoIRL]

I think if Lee progresses he'll do better work at 168 after adding some muscle mass. His legs are way too skinny as well, if he worked on them he could be a bigger puncher IMO.

He's got a great offensive arsenal but that defense is just beyond horrible. Manny Steward should be able to fix him up what with the fighters he has to spar against on a regular basis.

Thats what I find curious.
Emmanuel has brought Lee to the ring in poor condition once (Vera imo,) and really hasn't worked on defence.
Could it be that Steward is training him like G-Man, a high octane staright puncher always seeking the KO

Lee has a long way to go, but his potential, as you spotted over a year ago, is massive.

[RozzySean]

Duddy's gunning for 154 now.

Lee would destroy Peter.
5'9" vs. 6'2"

I would agree, but who would have a thought that Lee would lose to Vera? Who knows what the KO did to his confidence. Lee had 3 inches on Vera, too. I know Duddy is gunning for 154, but at some point Manfredo/Duddy is going to happen a some point, even if it's a few years down the road. It will be a huge fight in New England. They both have big fan bases here and the Irish vs Italy angle always plays well.

Andy reckons that he wasn't fit....
Said he never felt right in that fight.
Could be ovrtraining or too many fights?

I've said Duddy Manfredo for a long time....It could be a very entertaining fight, but both would be best at 154.

Manfredo is never going to see 154 again. Too many good Italian restaurants in Providence. We will see Duddy have a few bouts down at 154. Manfredo will do his thing - stay busy with club fighters - then in a year or two they'll meet at 160 for some the NABF or NABU or USBA MW title, probably at one of the CT casino's or at MSG. The fight will make money an the winner will get another big fight. The loser will be back to club fighter and gate keeping duty.

There is a chance that Duddy might be really good at 154 stick around there for a while, and that would put this fight off a while, because I can't ever see Manfredo going back down to 154 while he can still make living at 168 or 160 and not kill himself to make weight.

[donnydarkoIRL]

I would agree, but who would have a thought that Lee would lose to Vera? Who knows what the KO did to his confidence. Lee had 3 inches on Vera, too. I know Duddy is gunning for 154, but at some point Manfredo/Duddy is going to happen a some point, even if it's a few years down the road. It will be a huge fight in New England. They both have big fan bases here and the Irish vs Italy angle always plays well.

Andy reckons that he wasn't fit....
Said he never felt right in that fight.
Could be ovrtraining or too many fights?

I've said Duddy Manfredo for a long time....It could be a very entertaining fight, but both would be best at 154.

Manfredo is never going to see 154 again. Too many good Italian restaurants in Providence. We will see Duddy have a few bouts down at 154. Manfredo will do his thing - stay busy with club fighters - then in a year or two they'll meet at 160 for some the NABF or NABU or USBA MW title, probably at one of the CT casino's or at MSG. The fight will make money an the winner will get another big fight. The loser will be back to club fighter and gate keeping duty.

There is a chance that Duddy might be really good at 154 stick around there for a while, and that would put this fight off a while, because I can't ever see Manfredo going back down to 154 while he can still make living at 168 or 160 and not kill himself to make weight.

Theres truth in those words.

Duddy could be quite good at 154 and he may have even to beat Vernoe Phillips this October if it gets signed.