Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
Valerie Mahfood/Ann Wolfe to go to the females
Ann fought Valerie as a virtual unkown,Valerie was a former champ
On top of it Ann had lost their first meeting,now Ann is a legend in female boxing

again TM I'm not talking about upsets I'm talking about otherwise journeyman fighters who are famous for beating a great fighter two times.

Ann Wolf is now a superstar of womans boxing so she doesnt qualify at all.

I'm on about perennial underachievers, or those who never in their entire career became 'great' but against the odds scored not one but TWO wins over a fighter who was considered great.

Mayorga beating p4p star Forrest twice is a definite one, Jones twice beating p4p all time great Barrera is another.

Take away Jones wins over Barrera and Mayorga's wins over Forrest and they are entirely unremarkable. Those wins were sensational and unlikely and I want to know how many more like that there have been in history.