Can Kelly Pavlik do damage at 175?

[skel1983]

yea but kelly has been improvin on and on look at the lockett fight he didnt get hit that much he backed up when he came in and dropt him about 3 times and plus after the hopkins he will build up alot of experience after that. and kessler hasnt had much experience at all except joe and all his fights been in denmark against nobodys i checked his record so if he fights kelly hel just get kod cuz of the lack of experience he cant knock kelly out either kelly has fought power punchers before and knockin him down only make it worse.

Lockett got caught in the headlights and basically froze, he didnt let his hands go and shouldnt of been in there in the first place. The guy is a british level fighter, not even the best middleweight in Britain.

To say Kessler has no exprience?? WTF? He fought for the WBA 168 title in a hostile atmosphere in Australia, he has had i think 10+ 12 round fights in front of huge crowds. how can you say he aint experienced?

[kingfrnk]

being in a hostile crowd is one thing having great fighters on your resume is another

[skel1983]

being in a hostile crowd is one thing having great fighters on your resume is another

Kessler has more experience than Pavlik imo.

[Pugilistic]

being in a hostile crowd is one thing having great fighters on your resume is another

And the best fighter on Pavliks resume is Jermain Taylor. The same Taylor who was given the two fights with Hopkins and scored a draw with Wright where lots of people thought he lost and had two horrible performances against natural junior middleweights and you could argue he lost to cory spinks. Not exactly a great fighter is he.

Pavliks resume is overated.

well if he kos hopkins which is a possibility he should stay there cause he will have a bigger name at 175 which will draw him into bigger fights like a dawson fight or even calzaghe if he isnt afraid. and believe me kelly wants to ko hopkins so he can put pressure on joe to fight him cause alot of people still say hopkins won the fight.

I don't see why people think Hopkins getting Ko'd is a possibility.

Pavlik may have good power at 160 but as his second fight with Taylor showed it doesn't carry plus the fact he is a slow accumulation puncher and Hopkins is hard as fuck to hit Cleanly. Pavlik will not land enough to put Hopkins in any trouble.

Pavlik fighting Hopkins is the biggest mistake he has ever made.

Him fighting Calzaghe would be another mistake.

Calzaghe just has the perfect style to beat him and i'm surprised people actually give him a chance against joe.

Calzaghe is open to the right hand, he has proved that in the past. Kelly has a lethal right hand, he has proved that in the past.

Hopkins knocked Calzaghe down with a right. Kelly Pavlik hits 10 x more harder than Hopkins. So if Hopkins can put Joe on his ass it's a scary thought what Pavlik could do.

The Hopkins knockdown was more to Calzaghe being off balance and not seeing the punch. Hopkins has one of the sneakiest most accurate right hand in the sport.

What Calzaghe did to Kessler would be what he would do to Pavlik. Pavlik would have success with his right hand early but then Calzaghe adapts to it and takes over the fight.

By the way Pavlik does not hit 10x harder than bhop

Thats stupid talk .

[Markusdarkus]

being in a hostile crowd is one thing having great fighters on your resume is another

Pavliks notable fights Taylor x2 and Miranda

Kessler notable fights Beyer, Mundine, Andrade and Calzaghe

Not sure what planet you on dude but youre in for a shock when Pavlik fights Hopkins.

[kingfrnk]

so what your sayin is hopkins is gonna beat pavlik right

[kingfrnk]

the only noticable on is calzaghe who the hell are the others i mean the super middle weight division is a sorry ass division just as jr middle the only noticable SMWs are kissler calzaghe lacy and now taylor who i think will be the top of that division next year

[skel1983]

the only noticable on is calzaghe who the hell are the others i mean the super middle weight division is a sorry ass division just as jr middle the only noticable SMWs are kissler calzaghe lacy and now taylor who i think will be the top of that division next year

Who the fuck has Palik fought apart from Taylor??

Lets see Miranda who i put on the same level as Andrade who Kessler fought, Kessler has fought Three different World Champions, Pavlik has fought one. So i dont understand where you get this Kessler has not got the experience of Pavlik? I think you need to go do a bit more research.

[skel1983]

the only noticable on is calzaghe who the hell are the others i mean the super middle weight division is a sorry ass division just as jr middle the only noticable SMWs are kissler calzaghe lacy and now taylor who i think will be the top of that division next year

Serious your knowledge is poor of the 168 divison if you think Lacy is a notable fighter in the division, the 168 division right now has some great fighters who would smash Lacy to pieces Bute, Froch to name two would take Lacy out. Taylor also ducked Froch.

Im sorry but to me your one of the fans who dismisses anything that hasnt been on mainstream Us television Hbo/Showtime.

[kingfrnk]

man 168 is a bum ass division in my eyes carl froch is a nobody everybody knows lacy im not sayin i like lacy actually i dont like anybody at 168 dude that division sucks so bad calzaghe left it to fight at lightheavy now prove me wrong

[Markusdarkus]

so what your sayin is hopkins is gonna beat pavlik right

50-50.

[Pugilistic]

so what your sayin is hopkins is gonna beat pavlik right

He could even at 43, Pavlik ain't that good.

Pavlik is lucky Hopkins isn't 7 years younger.