Joel gets stopped - major surprise

[Majesty]

when were people gonna realise that Casamayor was slipping?

Hoe old is he like 37 now?


JMM is a great fighter. But Casamayor has been out of his prime for years.

And if anything it increases pacquiaos win and chin

[Kel]

when were people gonna realise that Casamayor was slipping?

Hoe old is he like 37 now?


JMM is a great fighter. But Casamayor has been out of his prime for years.

And if anything it increases pacquiaos win and chin

If Lacy or Kessler beat Calzaghe would you say Calzaghe was old? Also, are you the type of person than says Tszyu was old when he lost to Hatton?

I'm not having a go mate but do you see what I'm getting at?

[hairymadness6]

I agree with Saddo's ranking list except that Katsidis is grossly overrated. Prescott as well doesn't deserve ranking yet. In their places you could put Peterson and possibly Jueregui at 9 and 10. You have to have Campbell at the top even though I dispute the way he beat Diaz. Pac is clearly number 2 at this point.

[XaduBoxer]

I agree with Saddo's ranking list except that Katsidis is grossly overrated. Prescott as well doesn't deserve ranking yet. In their places you could put Peterson and possibly Jueregui at 9 and 10. You have to have Campbell at the top even though I dispute the way he beat Diaz. Pac is clearly number 2 at this point.

Actually I forgot to retain Casamayor in my rankings... He was not dominated by Marquez so I'll place him at no. 5 ...

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Nate Campbell
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Juan Diaz
5. Joel Casamayor
6. Edwin Valero
7. Breidis Prescott
8. Michael Katsidis
9. Julio Diaz
10. David Diaz

[ICB]

I agree with Saddo's ranking list except that Katsidis is grossly overrated. Prescott as well doesn't deserve ranking yet. In their places you could put Peterson and possibly Jueregui at 9 and 10. You have to have Campbell at the top even though I dispute the way he beat Diaz. Pac is clearly number 2 at this point.

Actually I forgot to retain Casamayor in my rankings... He was not dominated by Marquez so I'll place him at no. 5 ...

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Nate Campbell
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Juan Diaz
5. Joel Casamayor
6. Edwin Valero
7. Breidis Prescott
8. Michael Katsidis
9. Julio Diaz
10. David Diaz

1. Nate Campbell
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Manny Pacquiao
4. Juan Diaz
5. Joel Casamayor
6. Julio Diaz
7. David Diaz
8. Breidis Prescott
9. Yuri Romanov
10. Michael Katsidis

Why is Edwin Valero on the list ? he hasn't fought at Lightweight.

[XaduBoxer]

I agree with Saddo's ranking list except that Katsidis is grossly overrated. Prescott as well doesn't deserve ranking yet. In their places you could put Peterson and possibly Jueregui at 9 and 10. You have to have Campbell at the top even though I dispute the way he beat Diaz. Pac is clearly number 2 at this point.

Actually I forgot to retain Casamayor in my rankings... He was not dominated by Marquez so I'll place him at no. 5 ...

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Nate Campbell
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Juan Diaz
5. Joel Casamayor
6. Edwin Valero
7. Breidis Prescott
8. Michael Katsidis
9. Julio Diaz
10. David Diaz

1. Nate Campbell
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Manny Pacquiao
4. Juan Diaz
5. Joel Casamayor
6. Julio Diaz
7. David Diaz
8. Breidis Prescott
9. Yuri Romanov
10. Michael Katsidis

Why is Edwin Valero on the list ? he hasn't fought at Lightweight.

I already explained this in my previous post in this thread... Anyway I already ranked Valero at lightweight since he is highly ranked (a champ) at his previous division. So Valero could be ranked preferably below (or could be higher) the current champs in his new division... This actually makes sense if you consider what PAC and JMM (very highly ranked at 130) did to the champs at 135...
.

[killersheep]

Actually I forgot to retain Casamayor in my rankings... He was not dominated by Marquez so I'll place him at no. 5 ...

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Nate Campbell
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Juan Diaz
5. Joel Casamayor
6. Edwin Valero
7. Breidis Prescott
8. Michael Katsidis
9. Julio Diaz
10. David Diaz

1. Nate Campbell
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Manny Pacquiao
4. Juan Diaz
5. Joel Casamayor
6. Julio Diaz
7. David Diaz
8. Breidis Prescott
9. Yuri Romanov
10. Michael Katsidis

Why is Edwin Valero on the list ? he hasn't fought at Lightweight.

I already explained this in my previous post in this thread... Anyway I already ranked Valero at lightweight since he is highly ranked (a champ) at his previous division. So Valero could be ranked preferably below (or could be higher) the current champs in his new division... This actually makes sense if you consider what PAC and JMM (very highly ranked at 130) did to the champs at 135...
.

No actually it makes no sense to rank someone who has never fought in a division.

[pacfan]

Sheesh, it's the same ol' aruguments between the same ol' people, with the same ol' battle-line clearly drawn long time ago, with one group trying to belittle the accomplishments of the others' boy, while trying to inflate the accomplishments of their own, and vice versa. Don't you guys ever get tired?

[Puerto Rican Punch]

I thought that JMM was going to win this one, but I have to admit that I did not expect the TKO. It was a very good fight, I had it even up to round 10. I believe that Joel tried to stand up to quick and the other mistake was to start exchanging blows when he was still hurt instead of holding to gain time and recover, although he showed a big heart. It will not bother me to see a rematch between these 2 guys. Big applause for both of them.

[ICB]

when were people gonna realise that Casamayor was slipping?

Hoe old is he like 37 now?


JMM is a great fighter. But Casamayor has been out of his prime for years.

And if anything it increases pacquiaos win and chin

How old is Juan Manuel Marquez ?