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    Default Re: MArquez the greatest Mexican of this era....

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
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    does anybody think that JMM could become mexico's first 4 division champ now, could he go up to 140 and defeat one of the current champs as it is a weak division, he could just go up after a few fights at 135 to take on someone like holt or bradley and get that 4th weight title without too much difficulty, also theres a chance especially if pac fights hatton after DLh that their 3rd fight could happen at that weight
    Brilliant post kid
    I think JMM himself and his team should def. look at the big picture here and should def. consider taking a step to 140 and go for that 4th title it would fucken be magnificent for JMM.
    As they say good things come to those who wait and JMM has had a lot of major set backs but looking at it now it looks like it was well worth the long trip.

    I think they should go after the 4th title and just fly past Erik & MAB who for the better part had all the attention.

    ye i think time is of the essence though to some extent , JMM is what 35 now ? he shouldnt make the same mistake that Erik made of going for that 4th division title when his shot as fook
    eric did win that forth title though.

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    Default Re: MArquez the greatest Mexican of this era....

    not as far as the record books are concerned

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    Juan Manuel Marquez vs Ricky Hatton no offense to you HitmanHatton but i think your boy will KO'ed he leaves himself wide open when he lunges in and Juan Manuel Marquez makes you pay hard with those counter shots as Joel Casamayor found out and like so many opponents have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Juan Manuel Marquez vs Ricky Hatton no offense to you HitmanHatton but i think your boy will KO'ed he leaves himself wide open when he lunges in and Juan Manuel Marquez makes you pay hard with those counter shots as Joel Casamayor found out and like so many opponents have.
    none taken, your probably right Hatton is on the slide, although the way Hatton tends to hit and hold now may make it akward for JMM to counter him , im not too sure how it would play out to be honest

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
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    Juan Manuel Marquez vs Ricky Hatton no offense to you HitmanHatton but i think your boy will KO'ed he leaves himself wide open when he lunges in and Juan Manuel Marquez makes you pay hard with those counter shots as Joel Casamayor found out and like so many opponents have.
    none taken, your probably right Hatton is on the slide, although the way Hatton tends to hit and hold now may make it akward for JMM to counter him , im not too sure how it would play out to be honest
    Hatton would knock him out late. Marqeuz got floored by Pac and Barrera. Hatton at 140 hits harder. Besides JMM would be moving up another weight division and Hatton has a good chin also so no way JMM would KO Hatton.

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    Juan Manuel Marquez vs Ricky Hatton no offense to you HitmanHatton but i think your boy will KO'ed he leaves himself wide open when he lunges in and Juan Manuel Marquez makes you pay hard with those counter shots as Joel Casamayor found out and like so many opponents have.
    none taken, your probably right Hatton is on the slide, although the way Hatton tends to hit and hold now may make it akward for JMM to counter him , im not too sure how it would play out to be honest
    Hatton would knock him out late. Marqeuz got floored by Pac and Barrera. Hatton at 140 hits harder. Besides JMM would be moving up another weight division and Hatton has a good chin also so no way JMM would KO Hatton.
    I don't think Ricky Hatton P4P hits harder he wears his opponents down with an accumulation of punches Ricky Hatton has never been a dangerous puncher IMO and the knockdown against Marco Antonio Barrera was a flash knockdown except Marco Antonio Barrera hit Marquez while he was on the canvas which effected Marquez more and as for Manny Pacquiao well he is Manny Pacquiao end of i think Marquez is a bad style match up for Hatton with his counter punching style and with Hatton's reckless style lately i can't see him winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    Hatton would knock him out late. Marqeuz got floored by Pac and Barrera. Hatton at 140 hits harder. Besides JMM would be moving up another weight division and Hatton has a good chin also so no way JMM would KO Hatton.
    Lefty,
    If Lazacano had Hatton shakin' rattling and rolling what leads you to believe that JMM can't do the same?
    JMM hit's harder and is a lot more accurate then Lazcano.
    Hatton would eat JMM combinations all night long.

    Hatton would have to smoother JMM against the ropes but if you know JMM like I know JMM you know he wont let that happen.

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    I been following Casamayor since 1992. Ever since he beat Wayne McCullough for the gold medal. Iv'e followed his whole career. He'a always been a personal favorite of mine. But so has Marquez. I've watch him and his brother come up during the Great Western Forum days. So if Casamayor had to lose to someone I'm glad it was Marquez. Marquez is 35. But you can't even tell by the way he fights. He's an outstanding fighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
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    Hatton would knock him out late. Marqeuz got floored by Pac and Barrera. Hatton at 140 hits harder. Besides JMM would be moving up another weight division and Hatton has a good chin also so no way JMM would KO Hatton.
    Lefty,
    If Lazacano had Hatton shakin' rattling and rolling what leads you to believe that JMM can't do the same?
    JMM hit's harder and is a lot more accurate then Lazcano.
    Hatton would eat JMM combinations all night long.

    Hatton would have to smoother JMM against the ropes but if you know JMM like I know JMM you know he wont let that happen.
    I hate the way people state how Hatton was on the verge of getting KNFO by Lazcano. He got wobbled a little once. Just like he did against Juan Urango with a body shot. He didn't look close to going down though. JMM couldn't handle Hatton's pressure and bigger size. Plus Marquez ain't got a great chin, when Hatton throws his bombs Marquez will be hanging on for dear life. He won't get an easy ride with Ricky in the opposite corner. JMM hasn't faced nobody close to Ricky Hatton

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Juan Manuel Marquez vs Ricky Hatton no offense to you HitmanHatton but i think your boy will KO'ed he leaves himself wide open when he lunges in and Juan Manuel Marquez makes you pay hard with those counter shots as Joel Casamayor found out and like so many opponents have.
    hatton is also another champ waiting to be taken out, jmm should go after him. I really think he can beat any champ at 140 as well as pac. Jmm can really accomplish a lot and his time is now. Theres champs around him and pac that are all waiting to be taken out. Even oscar is vulderable, i wouldnt' be suprise if pac is too fast for oscar and win a ud. Hell jmm can prolly pull of a win over oscar too at 147. I hope pac and jmm last final fight are between eachother. That would be huge!!!!!!!

    plus i think Mexico is finally giving jmm the support he has always deserve, it should motivate jmm a lot more cause he is at where he has always wanted to be. Whateve happens though i think pac and jmm will collide once again.
    Last edited by Julius Rain; 09-14-2008 at 08:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Juan Manuel Marquez vs Ricky Hatton no offense to you HitmanHatton but i think your boy will KO'ed he leaves himself wide open when he lunges in and Juan Manuel Marquez makes you pay hard with those counter shots as Joel Casamayor found out and like so many opponents have.
    no way man. ricky made trouble for pbf at some point of that fight. hatton has a lil boxing in him. he only got ko'ed against pbf coz he was anxious and impatient about floyds game. thats a ko he'd take back anyday. but then again, who am i to say it is so. lets wish that it will happen
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    Quote Originally Posted by josef4334 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Juan Manuel Marquez vs Ricky Hatton no offense to you HitmanHatton but i think your boy will KO'ed he leaves himself wide open when he lunges in and Juan Manuel Marquez makes you pay hard with those counter shots as Joel Casamayor found out and like so many opponents have.
    no way man. ricky made trouble for pbf at some point of that fight. hatton has a lil boxing in him. he only got ko'ed against pbf coz he was anxious and impatient about floyds game. thats a ko he'd take back anyday. but then again, who am i to say it is so. lets wish that it will happen
    He never really troubled Floyd Mayweather much if your being kind to Ricky Hatton the most rounds you could give him is 3.
    Last edited by CutMeMick; 09-16-2008 at 04:31 AM. Reason: Come ICB let me and Leftylee sort this one out. We can do it. ;)

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    Marquez is a brilliant technical fighter...but like all great Mexican champs, he has tremendous heart as well. That being said...i still have him third behind Barrera and Morales as one of Mexico's recent great fighters. Marquez needs to finish his career on a tremendous high...considering he squandered so many years and potential great fights because of bad decisions/management. Casa wasn't exactly a young buck...that being said he is still a difficult stylistic matchup...so credit to Juan for winning an exciting fight. Even though i had Marquez AT THE VERY LEAST fighting Pac to a draw in their 2 fights...the official results didn't give him the win in either fight. And in what was another one of the great fights from this year...i had the Barrera/Marquez fight a draw or a narrow victory for Marco (i know i'm in the minority in thinking this, but just how i saw it). So Marquez has had some narrow wins and losses in recent fights...but props to him for taking on great fighters and performing well. But i still think he needs to close out his career with at least 2 HUGE wins to be in the same breath Barrera or Morales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josef4334 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Juan Manuel Marquez vs Ricky Hatton no offense to you HitmanHatton but i think your boy will KO'ed he leaves himself wide open when he lunges in and Juan Manuel Marquez makes you pay hard with those counter shots as Joel Casamayor found out and like so many opponents have.
    no way man. ricky made trouble for pbf at some point of that fight. hatton has a lil boxing in him. he only got ko'ed against pbf coz he was anxious and impatient about floyds game. thats a ko he'd take back anyday. but then again, who am i to say it is so. lets wish that it will happen
    What fight were you watching? Mayweather was never in trouble.

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