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    Default Re: MArquez the greatest Mexican of this era....

    not as far as the record books are concerned

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    Juan Manuel Marquez vs Ricky Hatton no offense to you HitmanHatton but i think your boy will KO'ed he leaves himself wide open when he lunges in and Juan Manuel Marquez makes you pay hard with those counter shots as Joel Casamayor found out and like so many opponents have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Juan Manuel Marquez vs Ricky Hatton no offense to you HitmanHatton but i think your boy will KO'ed he leaves himself wide open when he lunges in and Juan Manuel Marquez makes you pay hard with those counter shots as Joel Casamayor found out and like so many opponents have.
    none taken, your probably right Hatton is on the slide, although the way Hatton tends to hit and hold now may make it akward for JMM to counter him , im not too sure how it would play out to be honest

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Juan Manuel Marquez vs Ricky Hatton no offense to you HitmanHatton but i think your boy will KO'ed he leaves himself wide open when he lunges in and Juan Manuel Marquez makes you pay hard with those counter shots as Joel Casamayor found out and like so many opponents have.
    none taken, your probably right Hatton is on the slide, although the way Hatton tends to hit and hold now may make it akward for JMM to counter him , im not too sure how it would play out to be honest
    Hatton would knock him out late. Marqeuz got floored by Pac and Barrera. Hatton at 140 hits harder. Besides JMM would be moving up another weight division and Hatton has a good chin also so no way JMM would KO Hatton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
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    Juan Manuel Marquez vs Ricky Hatton no offense to you HitmanHatton but i think your boy will KO'ed he leaves himself wide open when he lunges in and Juan Manuel Marquez makes you pay hard with those counter shots as Joel Casamayor found out and like so many opponents have.
    none taken, your probably right Hatton is on the slide, although the way Hatton tends to hit and hold now may make it akward for JMM to counter him , im not too sure how it would play out to be honest
    Hatton would knock him out late. Marqeuz got floored by Pac and Barrera. Hatton at 140 hits harder. Besides JMM would be moving up another weight division and Hatton has a good chin also so no way JMM would KO Hatton.
    I don't think Ricky Hatton P4P hits harder he wears his opponents down with an accumulation of punches Ricky Hatton has never been a dangerous puncher IMO and the knockdown against Marco Antonio Barrera was a flash knockdown except Marco Antonio Barrera hit Marquez while he was on the canvas which effected Marquez more and as for Manny Pacquiao well he is Manny Pacquiao end of i think Marquez is a bad style match up for Hatton with his counter punching style and with Hatton's reckless style lately i can't see him winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    Hatton would knock him out late. Marqeuz got floored by Pac and Barrera. Hatton at 140 hits harder. Besides JMM would be moving up another weight division and Hatton has a good chin also so no way JMM would KO Hatton.
    Lefty,
    If Lazacano had Hatton shakin' rattling and rolling what leads you to believe that JMM can't do the same?
    JMM hit's harder and is a lot more accurate then Lazcano.
    Hatton would eat JMM combinations all night long.

    Hatton would have to smoother JMM against the ropes but if you know JMM like I know JMM you know he wont let that happen.

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    I been following Casamayor since 1992. Ever since he beat Wayne McCullough for the gold medal. Iv'e followed his whole career. He'a always been a personal favorite of mine. But so has Marquez. I've watch him and his brother come up during the Great Western Forum days. So if Casamayor had to lose to someone I'm glad it was Marquez. Marquez is 35. But you can't even tell by the way he fights. He's an outstanding fighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    Hatton would knock him out late. Marqeuz got floored by Pac and Barrera. Hatton at 140 hits harder. Besides JMM would be moving up another weight division and Hatton has a good chin also so no way JMM would KO Hatton.
    Lefty,
    If Lazacano had Hatton shakin' rattling and rolling what leads you to believe that JMM can't do the same?
    JMM hit's harder and is a lot more accurate then Lazcano.
    Hatton would eat JMM combinations all night long.

    Hatton would have to smoother JMM against the ropes but if you know JMM like I know JMM you know he wont let that happen.
    I hate the way people state how Hatton was on the verge of getting KNFO by Lazcano. He got wobbled a little once. Just like he did against Juan Urango with a body shot. He didn't look close to going down though. JMM couldn't handle Hatton's pressure and bigger size. Plus Marquez ain't got a great chin, when Hatton throws his bombs Marquez will be hanging on for dear life. He won't get an easy ride with Ricky in the opposite corner. JMM hasn't faced nobody close to Ricky Hatton

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    JMM is indeed an exceptional fighter, not as great as Morales and MAB but by the time he finishes his career he could be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    Hatton would knock him out late. Marqeuz got floored by Pac and Barrera. Hatton at 140 hits harder. Besides JMM would be moving up another weight division and Hatton has a good chin also so no way JMM would KO Hatton.
    Lefty,
    If Lazacano had Hatton shakin' rattling and rolling what leads you to believe that JMM can't do the same?
    JMM hit's harder and is a lot more accurate then Lazcano.
    Hatton would eat JMM combinations all night long.

    Hatton would have to smoother JMM against the ropes but if you know JMM like I know JMM you know he wont let that happen.
    I hate the way people state how Hatton was on the verge of getting KNFO by Lazcano. He got wobbled a little once. Just like he did against Juan Urango with a body shot. He didn't look close to going down though. JMM couldn't handle Hatton's pressure and bigger size. Plus Marquez ain't got a great chin, when Hatton throws his bombs Marquez will be hanging on for dear life. He won't get an easy ride with Ricky in the opposite corner. JMM hasn't faced nobody close to Ricky Hatton
    in terms of overall ability and p4p greatness - a certain Marco Antonio Barrera comes to mind

    and also with power i would say Pacquaio p4p hits a lot harder with individual shots than hatton does

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    I hate the way people state how Hatton was on the verge of getting KNFO by Lazcano. He got wobbled a little once.
    A little...
    Ok, I'll give you that one. If you wanna say a little.

    Once....
    You've gotta be joking? I know your a Hatton fan and all but don't get blinded kid.
    Off the top of my head I'd be willing to bet you ALL of my Rep points vs. ALL of your Rep points that is was more then once?
    You wanna bet?

    Here I'll leave you a google link so you can look it up before you answer me: Google

    Let me know if the bet is on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Juan Manuel Marquez vs Ricky Hatton no offense to you HitmanHatton but i think your boy will KO'ed he leaves himself wide open when he lunges in and Juan Manuel Marquez makes you pay hard with those counter shots as Joel Casamayor found out and like so many opponents have.
    hatton is also another champ waiting to be taken out, jmm should go after him. I really think he can beat any champ at 140 as well as pac. Jmm can really accomplish a lot and his time is now. Theres champs around him and pac that are all waiting to be taken out. Even oscar is vulderable, i wouldnt' be suprise if pac is too fast for oscar and win a ud. Hell jmm can prolly pull of a win over oscar too at 147. I hope pac and jmm last final fight are between eachother. That would be huge!!!!!!!

    plus i think Mexico is finally giving jmm the support he has always deserve, it should motivate jmm a lot more cause he is at where he has always wanted to be. Whateve happens though i think pac and jmm will collide once again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Juan Manuel Marquez vs Ricky Hatton no offense to you HitmanHatton but i think your boy will KO'ed he leaves himself wide open when he lunges in and Juan Manuel Marquez makes you pay hard with those counter shots as Joel Casamayor found out and like so many opponents have.
    no way man. ricky made trouble for pbf at some point of that fight. hatton has a lil boxing in him. he only got ko'ed against pbf coz he was anxious and impatient about floyds game. thats a ko he'd take back anyday. but then again, who am i to say it is so. lets wish that it will happen
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    Quote Originally Posted by josef4334 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Juan Manuel Marquez vs Ricky Hatton no offense to you HitmanHatton but i think your boy will KO'ed he leaves himself wide open when he lunges in and Juan Manuel Marquez makes you pay hard with those counter shots as Joel Casamayor found out and like so many opponents have.
    no way man. ricky made trouble for pbf at some point of that fight. hatton has a lil boxing in him. he only got ko'ed against pbf coz he was anxious and impatient about floyds game. thats a ko he'd take back anyday. but then again, who am i to say it is so. lets wish that it will happen
    He never really troubled Floyd Mayweather much if your being kind to Ricky Hatton the most rounds you could give him is 3.
    Last edited by CutMeMick; 09-16-2008 at 04:31 AM. Reason: Come ICB let me and Leftylee sort this one out. We can do it. ;)

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    Default Re: MArquez the greatest Mexican of this era....

    Marquez is a brilliant technical fighter...but like all great Mexican champs, he has tremendous heart as well. That being said...i still have him third behind Barrera and Morales as one of Mexico's recent great fighters. Marquez needs to finish his career on a tremendous high...considering he squandered so many years and potential great fights because of bad decisions/management. Casa wasn't exactly a young buck...that being said he is still a difficult stylistic matchup...so credit to Juan for winning an exciting fight. Even though i had Marquez AT THE VERY LEAST fighting Pac to a draw in their 2 fights...the official results didn't give him the win in either fight. And in what was another one of the great fights from this year...i had the Barrera/Marquez fight a draw or a narrow victory for Marco (i know i'm in the minority in thinking this, but just how i saw it). So Marquez has had some narrow wins and losses in recent fights...but props to him for taking on great fighters and performing well. But i still think he needs to close out his career with at least 2 HUGE wins to be in the same breath Barrera or Morales.

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