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I thought JMM won both fights and he has won many more rounds out of there two fights it has to be said that Manny Pacquiao was a tad lucky in there first fight that he caught JMM cold because after the 2nd round JMM had Manny Pacquaio figured out and i thought JMM won 8 rounds for certain take away that first round and it was an easy win and as for the 2nd fight i still think JMM won by 1 or maybe 2 points its just frustrating as a Juan Manuel Marquez fan because i know he has Manny Pacquiao's number and i know he could of won both fights.

I respectfully disagree with you ICB. Had the KO happened 2 minutes before the bell, Marquez would have been TKOed. Watch again the fight and tell me that I'm mistaken.
Thats not what i was saying i was saying he was a tad lucky he caught Juan Manuel Marquez cold. And up until he got caught he was outboxing Manny Pacquiao easily in that first round, and take away that round and it was a clear cut win for Juan Manuel Marquez. I think Juan Manuel Marquez was suprised at the quickness of Manny Pacquiao and he didn't except to get blitzed like that in the first round hence why he was caught cold.
Marquez knows manny is superfast. he was not caught cold and unaware. It happened during their first and second fight. Marquez is aware of Manny's speed.You yourself have accepted that you made a mistake in your scoring ICB. You said it was difficult to judge who won after watching it again. So it was not a clear cut win for Marquez even without the first round.

It was clear that while doing the RBR during that time you were having some clear bias towards Marquez, ICB. You must admit it.

I'd go for the judges' scorecards then. Manny Pac won that fight and history will judge it like that like the fight between Diaz and Morales, MAB vs Morales, etc.