Pacquiao to promote PAC-JMM 3 ?

[Taeth]

You could also argue JMM doens't have Pacman figured out because it both fights the same thing happened
1. Pacman comes out strong early
2. JMM takes over in the middle rounds
3. Pacman comes back late to win the fight.

Actually Juan Manuel Marquez IMO won the last 2 rounds in the 2nd fight and if i remember rightly he won the 12th round of the 1st fight aswell and there is also flip side to that coin you could say Manny Pacquiao hasn't figured out Juan Manuel Marquez either.

No way did Marquez deserve both of the last 2 rounds inthe second fight, only someone who is heavily biased towards Marquez would have given him both of those, same with the first fight, only someone who gave every close round to Marquez would have given him 8rounds.

[brucelee]

I thought JMM won both fights and he has won many more rounds out of there two fights it has to be said that Manny Pacquiao was a tad lucky in there first fight that he caught JMM cold because after the 2nd round JMM had Manny Pacquaio figured out and i thought JMM won 8 rounds for certain take away that first round and it was an easy win and as for the 2nd fight i still think JMM won by 1 or maybe 2 points its just frustrating as a Juan Manuel Marquez fan because i know he has Manny Pacquiao's number and i know he could of won both fights.

I respectfully disagree with you ICB. Had the KO happened 2 minutes before the bell, Marquez would have been TKOed. Watch again the fight and tell me that I'm mistaken.

Thats not what i was saying i was saying he was a tad lucky he caught Juan Manuel Marquez cold. And up until he got caught he was outboxing Manny Pacquiao easily in that first round, and take away that round and it was a clear cut win for Juan Manuel Marquez. I think Juan Manuel Marquez was suprised at the quickness of Manny Pacquiao and he didn't except to get blitzed like that in the first round hence why he was caught cold.

Marquez knows manny is superfast. he was not caught cold and unaware. It happened during their first and second fight. Marquez is aware of Manny's speed.You yourself have accepted that you made a mistake in your scoring ICB. You said it was difficult to judge who won after watching it again. So it was not a clear cut win for Marquez even without the first round.

It was clear that while doing the RBR during that time you were having some clear bias towards Marquez, ICB. You must admit it.

I'd go for the judges' scorecards then. Manny Pac won that fight and history will judge it like that like the fight between Diaz and Morales, MAB vs Morales, etc.

[ICB]

You could also argue JMM doens't have Pacman figured out because it both fights the same thing happened
1. Pacman comes out strong early
2. JMM takes over in the middle rounds
3. Pacman comes back late to win the fight.

Actually Juan Manuel Marquez IMO won the last 2 rounds in the 2nd fight and if i remember rightly he won the 12th round of the 1st fight aswell and there is also flip side to that coin you could say Manny Pacquiao hasn't figured out Juan Manuel Marquez either.

No way did Marquez deserve both of the last 2 rounds inthe second fight, only someone who is heavily biased towards Marquez would have given him both of those, same with the first fight, only someone who gave every close round to Marquez would have given him 8rounds.

So your saying atleast 50 percent of boxing fans are heavily biased towards Juan Manuel Marquez for giving him 8 rounds against Manny Pacquiao ? many people had Juan Manuel Marquez winning hence why there was a rematch and hence why people want another rematch because both fights were very controversial and infact more boxing fans had Marquez winning the 2nd meeting including boxing journalists etc.............

I'll find my scorecard tomorrow but i found it pretty easy to give 8 rounds to Marquez in the 1st fight and i had no problem giving him he last 2 rounds in the rematch either.

I just re read what you said and you was on about the 2nd fight regarding the bias of the last two rounds my bad i misread that but my opinion still stands.

[ICB]

I respectfully disagree with you ICB. Had the KO happened 2 minutes before the bell, Marquez would have been TKOed. Watch again the fight and tell me that I'm mistaken.

Thats not what i was saying i was saying he was a tad lucky he caught Juan Manuel Marquez cold. And up until he got caught he was outboxing Manny Pacquiao easily in that first round, and take away that round and it was a clear cut win for Juan Manuel Marquez. I think Juan Manuel Marquez was suprised at the quickness of Manny Pacquiao and he didn't except to get blitzed like that in the first round hence why he was caught cold.

Marquez knows manny is superfast. he was not caught cold and unaware. It happened during their first and second fight. Marquez is aware of Manny's speed.You yourself have accepted that you made a mistake in your scoring ICB. You said it was difficult to judge who won after watching it again. So it was not a clear cut win for Marquez even without the first round.

It was clear that while doing the RBR during that time you were having some clear bias towards Marquez, ICB. You must admit it.

I'd go for the judges' scorecards then. Manny Pac won that fight and history will judge it like that like the fight between Diaz and Morales, MAB vs Morales, etc.

I think you got mixed up Bruce i said the 2nd fight was more closer than i thought not the 1st fight my opinion has never changed on the 1st fight and Marquez was suprised by Pacquiao's speed in the 1st fight how can you say he wasn't ? it took him atleast 3 rounds to adjust to Pacquiao's speed and i don't care what the judges had it there normally wrong in alot of close fights i have my opinion and my opinion is that Marquez won both fights.